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I'm playing Gen 8 OU. Slowbro gets Future Sight, Scald, Slack Off and Regenerator, plus it can put a decent dent in teams with Calm Mind-boosted attacks. Clefable gets Magic Guard, Wish, Soft-Boiled, and Stealth Rock. Which is better for Gen 8 OU, why is it better, and what's a good set for them both?

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Ty what does that even mean
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No lol :)
What is the rest of your team?

 Slowbro and Clefable are often used as tanks. From my Showdown experience, Slowbro is quite annoying to take out, I always need at least two turns before taking it out. I don't play OU but from my Natdexag experience, Clefable is often used as a Minimize baton passer. But Clefable, there is a Evasion clause in OU so you can't use Minimize.
Try this: I don't know if it's good or not
Clefable @ Leftovers  
Ability: Magic Guard  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA  
Bold Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Calm Mind  
- Substitute/Stealth Rock
- Soft-Boiled/Wish
- Moonblast
Slowbro is more of a tank than Clefable, it also has Regenerator. Being bulky while healing when switching out is amazing. And it also has better defenses than Clefable. Try this set:
Slowbro @ Leftovers  
Ability: Regenerator  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD  
Bold Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Toxic  
- Calm Mind  
- Slack Off  
- Scald
But here is a question I had in mind: Why don't you use Toxapex instead?
I don't really want to say the rest of my team, as I'll be using it for the next DB tourney tomorrow. I need to decide which one of these two I want as part of that team. Is Toxapex better than both?
Slowbro checks a lot of Pokemon that Clefable can't, like Heatran, Excadrill, Toxapex, and Melmetal. Also its regenerator and vulnerability to toxic makes it much better at using teleport than calm mind.
But if this is for the tournament, then you should use Calyrex because I want to defeat you more easily. (I will be genuinely impressed if you win with Calyrex)
In all honesty, it depends on the team. Vulnerable to ground types then Slowbro is better. Not vulnerable to ground types then usually Clefable

lol sumwun that's a nice reason xD

And there is a tournament going on?
@Demon Hunter the polytype tournament sign ups will begin tomorrow. You can check the Mehta tomorrow it should be there
We should start a tournament sometime next week. You can read more in this thread: https://pokemondb.net/pokebase/meta/13419/pokemon-tournament-suggestions-posting-tournament-january
Will there be a thread for the sign ups or do you sign up somewhere else?

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Well, here’s the Pros and Cons of each
Slowbro
Pros:
•Superior stats to Clef
•Regenerator is an amazing ability
•Access to reliable recovery in Slack Off, Scald with a burn chance, Future Sight, and Calm Mind for setup.
•Can work as a good trick room setter
Cons:
•Not as good a movepool as Clef
•5 weaknesses and no immunities
•It’s a bulky water type, so it faces stiff competition from a certain crown-of-thorns starfish Water/Poison type in the tier
Clefable
Pros:
•Magic Gaurd and Unaware are both amazing abilities. Magic Gaurd prevents any sort of chip damage, while Unaware annoys setup sweeprs.
•Fairy is an extremely valuable typing, beating the common Fighting, Dark, and Dragons, and gives it an immunity to dragon.
•One of the most versatile movepools of any Pokémon. It has Stealth Rock, Soft-Boiled, Wish, Teleport, Moonblast, and Calm Mind at it’s disposal.
•It’s rated S tier lol
Cons:
•Not-so-good stats
•Not many resistances

Overall, I would prefer Clefable for it’s awesome movepool, ability, and Fairy typing being valuable in OU.
Now for the Movesets:
Clefable @ Leftovers
Clefable
Ability:Magic Gaurd/Unaware
Nature:Bold
EVs:252 HP/252 Def/4 SpA
•Stealth Rock
•Soft Boiled
•Calm Mind
•Moonblast

Slowbro @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Slowbro
Ability:Regenerator
Nature:Bold
EVs:252 HP/252 Def/4 SpA
•Slack Off
•Teleport
•Future Sight
•Scald

Hope this helps!

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Thanks! Guess I'll go with Clefable.
Slowbro has regenerator and is not immune to toxic, so it's much better at using teleport than calm mind.
@sumwum why is being vulnerable to Toxic a good thing?
Oh, didn’t realize it had teleport
A couple things you forgot to mention. One, ghosts and psychics have a miserable time in gen 8 ou atm due to dark Urshifu and two, Slowbro is a great check to the ground types in the tier. Really, this thing takes a +2 adamant Garchomp earthquake boosted by life orb and threatens it back with burn. Also, boots is better than leftovers for Slowbro as if it gets chipped, it suddenly won't be able to check the tier's ground types. Another con of Slowbro is that it is a bulky water and all bulky waters have to compete with that unkillable abomination known as Toxapex. Aside from those, this is a very good comparison
@Blade It's not a good thing, but it hurts calm mind Slowbro more than it hurts teleport Slowbro. Therefore calm mind is worse than teleport.
Thank you, @Demon Hunter
Oh and I forgot something. Slowbro is also the best physical pivot in the tier and it makes every single physical attacker in the game that much more difficult to deal with. This is due to future sight completely killing Buzzwole, who not only walls the main physical attackers in dark Urshifu, Garchomp and Rillaboom but straight up kills them while even Cinderace will not have an easy time breaking thru it either. With the cancer inducing future sight + teleport, all these physical attackers become very difficult to deal with. Buzzwole isn't the only victim as even Toxapex is no longer an unkillable abomination because of the sight and even Landorus therian will have a hard time checking them