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I want to use Gardevoir in a competitive team. The problem is, I forgot to ev train it (I know, it might sound stupid, but hey, this is the first time I do this). Luckily, it turned out it had perfect evs in its two best stats- sp attack and sp defense. Here's the moveset I want to give it:

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Ability: Trace
EVs: as mentioned above
Modest nature (+sp. attack, -attack)
-Draining kiss/???
-Moonblast
-Calm mind
-Healing wish

Would this be any good?

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How does a Pokemon you forgot to EV train happen to have max EVs in two stats? Are you talking about IVs?
No, trust me, complete coincidence
But I did bottle cap it
Gardevoir is pretty outclassed by Tapu Lele, unfortunately.
True, but Gardevoir is Gardevoir

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Ok, this has been unanswered, for....a very long time. First, gardevoir has a horrible HP stat of 68. Second, "tanks" really aren't common in vgc. If you have a "tank", it has to fulfill other roles. This is why chansey is bad in vgc: It only tanks hits. It can't dish out damage or do another thing. It does have some alright support moves in taunt and helping hand, along with trick room, but all of those moves have better users. For taunt, tapu fini or whimsicott have that covered. Whimsicott also gets helping hand. On top of that, trick room is more consistently set by cresselia or even comfey. Heal pulse is useful, yes, however, that isn't something that can propel gardevoir into viability. Plus, gardevoir isn't even unique in the combination of Heal pulse, Trick room, Helping hand and taunt: Gallade and the gothitelle line get it. So, in summary, gardevoir has a bad hp stat, tanks aren't common in vgc, it does not get many good support moves and role compression is not a factor.

On top of that, it is weak to many common attacks. For example, it is weak to a shadow ball.

252 SpA Life Orb Spectrier Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gardevoir: 242-289 (71.1 - 85%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

It cannot take hits from venusaur either.

252+ SpA Life Orb Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gardevoir: 229-273 (67.3 - 80.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

In comparison, if we look at cresselia, one of the only "tanks" in vgc, it can take hits a heck of a lot better.

252 SpA Life Orb Spectrier Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Cresselia: 221-265 (49.7 - 59.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO

Now, yes, this is still a 2 hit KO, however, look at the percentages. It is shown to be that cresselia takes it better, so the second attack coming at it might not ko it, while the one coming at gardevoir will.

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Glastrier doesn't get Trick Room.
trick room is more consistently set by cresselia or even glastrier they said that
Oh, my bad.
F, I thought it did. Nvm. Let me change that.
Thanks!
If this helps, can you select it as the best answer?
Oh sorry I didn’t have much time