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I need want to challenge league four in black white 2. I had a Nidoqueen, I don't know if I should use Nidoking instead. Somehow my game is harder than the usual game, so I need a good decision here. I have three strong attackers, only one special attacker yet. Here is the information Nidoqueen and Nidoking.

Nidoqueen
Ability: Sheer Force
Nature: Lonely
EVs: Attack 167 /SpeD 145 / SpA 135

  • Shadow Claw
  • Surf
  • Earthquake
  • Thunderbolt

Nidoking
Ability: Rivalry
Nature: Lax
EVs: Attack 121 /SpeD 105 / SpA 125

  • Ice beam
  • Hidden Power
  • Earthquake
  • Thunderbolt
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Are you able to teach Nidoqueen any moves that are boosted by sheer force, like poison jab, earth power, sludge wave, ice beam, or ice punch?
Yeah, I can learn those moves, but which move do you suggest to remove?
First you should probably get STAB moves for both of its types, so earth power and either poison jab or sludge wave. I think the best coverage moves are whichever ones are super effective against the most of the Elite 4's and champion's Pokemon, which are an ice move (either ice punch or ice beam) and focus blast.
Nidoking has better offensive stats so I can outspeed and one hit KO more pokemon than Nidoqueen can. The lower bulk doesnt matter much in game because you can just outspeed and one hit KO most opponents. So I think Nidoking is more optimal to use.
In general, Nidoking is better, but their stats are so similar that I think the sheer force matters more in this case.
Yeah, Sheer Force Nidoqueen is better than Rivalry Nidoking because she hits harder. I didn't notice at first that Nidoking didnt have Sheer Force. If both had Sheer Force than Nidoking would be better, but that's not the case here, so I think you should use Nidoqueen.

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Physical Attack comparison, assuming level 50

121 Atk Rivalry buffed Nidoking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 78-93 (52 - 62%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
121 Atk Rivalry nerfed Nidoking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 48-57 (32 - 38%) -- 89.1% chance to 3HKO
121 Atk Nidoking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 63-75 (42 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
167+ Atk Sheer Force Nidoqueen Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 69-82 (46 - 54.6%) -- 57.8% chance to 2HKO
167+ Atk Nidoqueen Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 67-79 (44.6 - 52.6%) -- 20.3% chance to 2HKO

Special Attack comparison

135 SpA Sheer Force Nidoqueen Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kingdra: 46-55 (30.6 - 36.6%) -- 63.4% chance to 3HKO
125 SpA Nidoking Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Kingdra: 38-45 (25.3 - 30%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

As you can see from the above calculations, Nidoqueen has both higher physical and special attacking power when using a move boosted by Sheer Force. It also has marginally better durability. Nidoking's Rivalry ability is more likely to be harmful then helpful when facing the Unova elite four because there are more female Pokemon than male.
However if both of them had Sheer Force than Nidoking would be better because of its higher offensive stats.
For these reasons, I think your Sheer Force Nidoqueen is better than Rivalry Nidoking for facing the Unova Elite four.
Source:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_League_(Unova)#First_battle_(pre-National_Pokédex)
https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/

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