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I've spent a while training up a lucario but I think I would get better sweeping potential with Mienshao. My Lucario is EV trained in Speed and Sp. Atk.

Lucario's moveset:

-Dark Pulse
-Aura Sphere

My thought is that Mienshao would be better due to speed, but would the extra effort be worth it? It took about 2 hours, probably more, to train Lucario.

lucario would be better if you just fed it beans :3

2 Answers

4 votes

Mienshao has higher attack (125 to 110) and higher speed (105 to 90). Mienshao has 2 weaknesses, while Lucario has 3.

I <3 Mienshao. It was my first EV Trained Pokemon. Try this:
Mienshao (M) @ Flyng Gem
Nature: Adamant (+Atk, -SpAtk)
Trait: Regenerator

EV Spread:
252 Atk
252 Speed
4 HP

  • Hi Jump Kick
  • Acrobatics
  • U-Turn/ Swords Dance
  • Brick Break/ Stone Edge

(Bold Italics = what i would choose as my moveset
Lucario does beat Mienshao at one thing: Lucario can be an awesome MIXED attacker.

Iron Heart
Lucario (M) @ Focus Sash or Salac Berry
Nature: Lonely (+Atk, -Def) or Naughty (+Atk, -SpDef)
Trait: Inner Focus or Steadfast (your choice)

EV Spread:
121 Atk
137 SpAtk
252 Speed

  • Work Up
  • Dark Pulse/ Flash Cannon/ Hidden Power [Water]
  • ExtremeSpeed/ Vacuum Wave
  • Close Combat/ Hi-Jump Kick/ Aura Sphere

(Bold Italics = what i would choose as my moveset)

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Adamant on Lucario? Why not Lonely or Naughty?
I guess you are right. Since he is using Close Combat, Defenses don't matter.  Thanks for making me think about it.
Lucario also has a Priority which Meinshao does not have (aside from fake-out). Lucario also has a wider movepool. And Lucario is more Epic. :)
Definitely Mienshao. I just went and DESTROYED the Elite Four (@ Level 69) and was surprised at how easily it was done with him. Lucario probably isn't the best choice for my team anyway, that would make 3 Fighting types if I kept him and Mienshao.
Thanks for the advice!
@ Speed freak: i have had plenty of success with Mienshao. Lucario is cool, but Mienshao is the shinx!!! (but yes, Lucario is awesome too)

@ dovodx: Awesome stuff & your welcome. E4 Suck :)
1 vote

Offensivly Mienshao is better,
check this:

(my Mienshao,( beast in single battle)
Name: Mienshao(m)@ Leftovers
Nature: Jolly(+Atk,-SpAtk)
Ability: Regenerator

6 Hp
252 Atk
252 Speed


  • Hi Jump Kick
  • Drain Punch
  • Substitute
  • U-turn

It is an amazing Pokemon and totally sweeps unprepared teams!

adamant would be that nature not jolly. jolly is -spatt +speed but jolly is good for it too. i always get jolly for oshawatt which i hate!!!>.<!!!