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Necrozma-Dusk-Mane
Necrozma-Dusk-Mane @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Prism Armor
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Sunsteel Strike
- Knock Off
- Morning Sun

Eternatus
Eternatus @ Black Sludge
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 212 SpD / 44 Spe
Calm Nature
- Dragon Tail
- Mystical Fire
- Toxic Spikes
- Recover

Yveltal
Yveltal @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Dark Aura
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Snarl
- U-turn
- Defog
- Roost

Lunala
Lunala @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Shadow Shield
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Will-O-Wisp
- Hex
- Roost

Kyurem-White
Kyurem-White @ Utility Umbrella
Ability: Turboblaze
EVs: 32 HP / 40 SpA / 220 SpD / 216 Spe
Timid Nature
- Sheer Cold
- Freeze-Dry
- Fusion Flare
- Roost

Ditto
Ditto @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Imposter
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Transform

very creative teambuilding indeed, no, 33% of this core is not taken from some nerd's team or anything.

i'd actually give this a description if it wasn't late so i'll probably update tomorrow lmfao

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I feel like this team is really passive, you need like zacian or ze horse, or maybe both
What should I replace? This team is built on 2 cores and replacing anything will make a core fall apart. I don't really view it as really passive, since there's Tspikes and luna hex, along with Sheer Cold pressure and all the chip damage from moves like sunsteel strike and freeze-dry. i also have ditto for set up sweepers, which i believe are the main problem for passive teams.
Maybe 0 Atk on Kyurem-White and Lunala? Idk what else to say though. This team is great.
I feel like you don't really need kyurem white if you have eternatus. I also do like toxic more than t spikes, but that's preference.
Yeah, Eternatus AND Kyurem-W is too much. Do you really hate Kyogre that much XD
You CAN fit Kyuren-W and Eternatus on same team. The thing is, both being SpD makes the team HIGHLY passive. Could use Offensive Kyurem-W instead, considering it has 0 reliable switch-ins outside of stuff like Blissey, Ho-Oh which no one uses :3 Also, Mystical Fire + Toxic Spikes is a bad combo.

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Hey nerd. The problem with your team is that it's too much passive. If I were to battle using this team, I would have probably become bored and stop laddering. Is this team even a Balance? No attackers at all; Sheer Cold Kyurem-W and Hex Lunala are not justified enough to count offensive.

Here are the problems this team faces:

Defensive Kyurem-W + Defensive Eternatus on same team

and are mostly for Kyogre. Having both specially defensive has no utility at all. Since both things cover the same threats, having both is redundant. The solution is to run Offensive Kyurem-W or Eternatus to keep both on same team.

You should opt out to make Kyurem-W offensive. Offensive Kyurem-W is an extremely underrated pick, but combined with a physical attacker this team can break anything pretty easily. Sheer Cold isn't just worth now imo, with other Kyurems and Lapras running loose on ladder, having Sheer Cold just baits out other Kyurem-W to wall you and absorb Sheer Cold. However, having Offensive Kyurem-W can give a huge surprise, as they get their Kyogre counter get out by surprise. So, without further ado replace that with this set:

Kyurem-White @ Life Orb
Ability: Turboblaze
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
- Fusion Flare
- Ice Beam

With this set, you can lure opposing Kyurems into a death trap and surprise them with Draco Meteor. I prefer Ice Beam over Freeze Dry, so that you can do more damage to Yveltal (OHKO offensive sets). In case of Kyogre, it can't really touch you and we already have Eternatus so whatever. Life Orb with 252 SpA allows you to 2HKO NDM with Fusion Flare on the switch-in. Roost is pretty self-explanatory, it ensures your longevity.

Bad match-up against Marshadow

Marshadow is hell scary. It can come on anything like Kyurem-W, Lunala, NDM, and can force a switch-in. What's even scary is that, it can 2HKO / OHKO every member on this team with Life Orb / Choice Band. Here's the calculations to prove it:

252+ Atk Life Orb Marshadow Poltergeist (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dusk-Mane: 230-271 (57.7 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Marshadow Poltergeist (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eternatus: 261-308 (53.9 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

252+ Atk Life Orb Marshadow Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Yveltal: 285-335 (62.5 - 73.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Marshadow Poltergeist (110 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shadow Shield Lunala: 390-460 (81.5 - 96.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Life Orb Marshadow Close Combat vs. 32 HP / 0 Def Kyurem-White: 595-702 (149.1 - 175.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

So, what are you gonna do against Marshadow? All of your team is slower than it, and only Ditto outspeds it (can't switch-in though). There's one suggestion to it. An alternative spread for Eternatus that allows it to outspeed Adamant Marshadow while still staying SpD. Here's the improved set:

Eternatus @ Black Sludge
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 164 SpD / 92 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dragon Tail
- Flamethrower
- Toxic
- Recover

With the following spread, you hit up 350, which is faster than Adamant Marshadow at 349. Toxic is used so to fix the awful Ho-Oh matchup, also letting some space VS SpD Yveltal (Toxic Spikes gets walled by SpD Yveltal and any Ho-Oh set).

Two Defensive cores with Ditto be like: CRINGE

You ALREADY pretty much cover any offensive mon I can think of on paper, plus Lunala isn't really needed when we have Yveltal + NDM + Etern combo with Ditto. In case of Zekrom, it can be taken down by running Earthquake on NDM, plus Ditto can revenge kill boosted Zekrom. Same applies to Groudon here. So, why not instead fit a breaker that can form a synergy with Kyurem-W?

The best things that can come in mind are:
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God anyone will love this combo. KyuW Marsh can tear through balance like paper, so can QuickPass Calyrex-S with Kyurem-W. It is, indeed one of the most fantastic wallbreaking core. Here are some sets for it:

Marshadow @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Poltergeist
- Close Combat
- Shadow Sneak
- Bulk Up

And

Calyrex-Shadow @ Focus Sash
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot
- Astral Barrage
- Psyshock
- Baton Pass

Here's one alternative you can try. Lunala can instead stay, and Ditto can be replaced with Marshadow. But all in all, that's your preference.

Tl;dr here's the updated team:
https://pokepast.es/412348e58277bb7a With Ditto
https://pokepast.es/76da2751dc03137a With Lunala

Hope this helps!

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Awesome answer! But, wouldn’t Dynamax cannon be better than dragon tail in this case to outspeed Marsh and hit it for decent damage, since you don’t have Toxic Spikes anymore?
It can be, but I didn't choose it because this team would have an awful match-up VS CM Bulky Ogre as Kyurem-W isn't running Sheer Cold or Freeze Dry. Even though if it did run the latter, getting a few CM boosts and chip on Kyurem-W isn't hard. So D-Tail acts as a semi-reliable check to that. In case of hurting Marshadow correctly, Dynamax Cannon isn't the real play—since Poltergeist 2HKOes on switch-in, you have to Recover Pressure stall its PP, and if you were to go for Dynamax Cannon you're straight KOed up.
Uh... what's QuickPass?
Nasty Plot + Baton Pass
Thanks nerd