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Opponent had Tailwind Up

It was mega heracross vs my Mega Alakazam

Alakazam was maxed speed-timid,31ivs,252evs.

Heracross-Idk, but would it outspeed me if it was maxed out in speed also? (Mega Form)


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A Mega Alakazam with maximum speed investment hits 438 speed. Mega Heracross whereas only hits 273 speed when fully invested. Because of Tailwind, the 273 speed would have been doubled to 546 therefore would have out speed you.

Now I haven't played competitive battling in a while and when I say I while, I mean since early December 2013 so feel free to disagree with my judgment and thoughts here. But base 75 speed for Heracross really isn't that impressive nor would fully investing in the speed stat really get you anywhere. Personally I wouldn't invest much in speed and after searching around on Youtube and Smogon, it seems people are being slightly more lenient towards running little investment in speed and more in HP. After all it does have the perfect typing for a physical tank, investing in HP makes a lot of sense. I've seen sets running little to no investment and some suggesting to run 96 to out speed base 86 Pokemon without investment which would bring it to 210. Should that be the case, Alakazam would out speed regardless of whether the Tailwind is up or not.

Should the situation arise, I would play it safe and switch. However if I am correct about people running little speed investment, I would try get some prior damage off on it and make a judgment as to how much investment it has in HP. Just don't make stupid gambles. On the other hand, should it have Tailwind support, it may not be running much speed seen as it wouldn't out speed much important and still loses out to a lot of scarfed Pokemon. Then again, this situation is unlikely to happen.

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I thought the same
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It was the last pokemon for both of us
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Heracross would be faster, since tailwind doubles your teams speed stat. Hope I helped!

I looked it up.
Both Megas had 150 base speed.
So it was a speed tie?
The opponent had mega heracross which had the tailwind boost
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Mega Heracross+Tailwind Vs. Mega Alakazam
There is a 50% chance of Mega Alakazam going before Mega Heracross
There is a 50% chance of Mega Heracross going before Mega Alakazam
Not much more to say just a 50/50 chance of going before

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Who flagged me for no reason?!!?!?
someone flagged both answers, it was probably a troll so just ignore it.
I don't know who flagged, but I have removed them now. I'm not sure I agree with this answer though which is suggesting it would be a speed tie which is wrong. Arguably it did deserve a flag (should that be the case) and maybe needs hiding. However because it was vague I would prefer the answer be elaborated on first. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the answer :P
Well I was in-game on BW2 I had a patrat and battled youngster joey with a same leveled patrat as youngster joey he used tackle first then I used tackle after that I went first so thats how I got this answer this has also happened to me other times too
Evs dude...Evs