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I'm about to battle Rayquaza in Pokemon Sapphire and I don't have a Master Ball because I missed it in the Team Aqua Hideout. So I was wondering how powerful Aurora Beam would be with the NeverMeltIce, STAB, and x4 super effective. I'm just so confused with the whole thing so someone please help me. (Aurora Beam's base power is 65 btw)

which pokemon is using it?
yeah, we need to know this.
Im pretty sure he just means base power
and level, too.
i think he meant how much damage it would do to a lvl 70 rayquaza, cause i think he wants to catch it
Yeah, but what level is the Pokemon that is using it?
i gave him an example, he might be using something else at some other level tho
Walrein, lvl. 52

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base power:

65 (Base power) x 1.5 (STAB) x 1.2 (NeverMeltIce) x 4 (weakness) = 468

actuall damage

this is just circa as we don't know your EVs or IVs, but lets say 84 EVs (average) and 0 IVs under circumstances already stated= 64.5% - 77.4%

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I wouldn't assume 0 ivs, considering he doesn't want to kill it. I would play it safe and assume at least 15 ivs, whatever that amounts to.
Don't do the percentage, but the actual calculations. And what circumstances?
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Maths With Torterra!

Normal Aurora Beam


Aurora Beam + NeverMeltIce (Aurora Beam +20%)


Aurora Beam + NeverMeltIce + STAB (Aurora Beam + 20% + 50%)


Aurora Beam + NeverMeltIce + STAB + Super-Effectiveness (Aurora Beam + 20% + 50% x4)


Answer: 468

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It depend on which Pokemon is using it, and what it's level is.

Say if you're Pokemon is Dewgong at 70 lvl, it's a clean kill, but if it's 64 lvl instead, it barely misses taking it out at 252 sp.atk investment.

EDIT: If you're Pokemon is a Walrein at lvl 52, and if you have 0 investment in special attack, it would do just above half to a lvl 70 Rayquaza. However this also means two hits is a sure knock out.

Hope I helped!

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Answering this because the answers below are wrong.

STAB boosts damage, not Base Power


Type Effectiveness boosts damage, not Base Power.


Actually the Aurora Beam Base Power with Never Melt Ice will be 78. (Or 71 if you're playing Gen 1, 2 or 3).

Also in this case you're fighting Rayquaza, every Aurora Beam user (except Legendaries) will not be a guaranteed OHKO to Rayquaza, you might be unlucky or your Aurora Beam user is below Rayquaza's level.

Lvl 70 0 SpA Walrein Aurora Beam vs. Lvl 70 0 HP / 0 SpD Rayquaza: 217-256 (95.5 - 112.7%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Lvl 70 0 SpA Cloyster Aurora Beam vs. Lvl 70 0 HP / 0 SpD Rayquaza: 193-228 (85 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

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But the asker literally wants the damage done which would be equal to the base power without STAB & Type Effectiveness
The question says Walrein is level 52. This answer is wrong.
@Staraptor Damage is almost never equal to base power, even if there is no STAB and type effectiveness. Did you click the link in Blaziken's answer?
> Also technically, STAB multiplies damage, not power. But damage is almost proportional to power, so power multipliers and damage multipliers are almost the same thing.
commented Aug 3, 2020 by sumwun


That was what I meant, but I couldn't say it properly.