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Hey all! So, my friend challenged me to a battle a couple days back. He was certain he’d beat me because he has a Rayquaza with dragon ascent that he just spams. He beat his brother with it, apparently. Out of pure saltiness, I want to kick him in the rear end and take out his Raquaza. I would like to know a good Pokemon and moveset for said Pokemon to use against the Rayquaza. I’m thinkin fairy types, but he probably has coverage. Thank you so so much!

Not a full answer, but https://www.smogon.com/dex/sm/pokemon/rayquaza/ Try using a dusk mane Necrozma with a Shuca berry (Occa if you expect V-create).
rayquaza doesn't learn v-create, v-create is a assigned move to victini
V-create is an event-exclusive move for both Rayquaza and Victini. A V-create Rayquaza was distributed in 2012.

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Mega Rayquaza is unique in that it is nearly impossible to counter, and as such only the best checks are presented.

Bulky Fairy-types: Bulky Fairy-types, such as Arceus-Fairy and Xerneas, can take even any boosted hit most of the time and OHKO Mega Rayquaza with their STAB moves. However, both get 2HKOed by Life Orb boosted Dragon Ascent, limiting their ability to switch in.

Rock-types: Shuca Berry Tyranitar and Arceus-Rock can switch in on both Dragon Ascent and V-create. Unfortunately, Tyranitar gets 2HKOed by Draco Meteor, while Arceus-Rock will either get OHKOed by +1 Life Orb boosted Earthquake or 2HKOed by Draco Meteor if it is more physically defensive.

Bulky Walls: Defensive Zygarde-C, Lugia, and Giratina are able to avoid the OHKO from Life Orb Mega Rayquaza's +1 Dragon Ascent as well as the 2HKO from its unboosted Dragon Ascent. In return, they can retaliate with either Dragon Tail or Ice Beam. Unfortunately, Lugia loses to Choice Band Mega Rayquaza, Zygarde-C gets OHKOed by Draco Meteor, and Giratina falls to both.

Steel-types: Skarmory and Celesteela can easily wall out the Dragon Dance variant without Earthquake, but V-create OHKOes both. Arceus-Steel and Necrozma-DM can switch in on Dragon Ascent, but both fall prey to V-create as well.

Revenge Killers: Mega Gengar and Marshadow are immune to Extreme Speed and can pick off a weakened Mega Rayquaza. Marshadow also carries Shadow Sneak, allowing it to revenge kill Mega Rayquaza even after a Dragon Dance. Other faster threats include Ultra Necrozma and Choice Scarf Xerneas, but they take heavy damage from Extreme Speed.

Bulky Arceus Formes: Many bulky Arceus formes can avoid a 2HKO from Choice Scarf Mega Rayquaza's Dragon Ascent and an OHKO from +1 Life Orb boosted Dragon Ascent, rendering them viable checks in specific scenarios. However, the inability to OHKO Mega Rayquaza from full makes Arceus-Ground, Arceus-Water, and Arceus-Dark much less viable than Arceus-Fairy as a check.

Stealth Rock: One of the best ways to hinder Mega Rayquaza is to set up Stealth Rock, as Rayquaza will take 25% of damage from the entry hazard every single time it switches in, making it easier to revenge kill.

Status: Mega Rayquaza hates status in general, with some sets such as Choice Scarf especially disliking paralysis and others like Dragon Dance and Choice Band being completely neutered by burns. Hence, inflicting Mega Rayquaza with status is a good way to limit its versatility and wear it down.


Scizor @ Choice Band  
Ability: Technician  
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 SpA  
Brave Nature  
- Bullet Punch  
- Pursuit  
- Double Hit  
- Silver Wind

This, strangely enough, worked against Mega Rayquaza. IF you land the first hit with bullet punch you can 1 shot it. If it does not work then I may have gotten lucky against it.
Why would you use Scizor when you can use Arceus?
Because Arceus cannot be obtained in USUM right now.
I mean, yes, but as a person with an Arceus transferred up I cannot Relate. :P

I would say “Use Sturdy Counter Skarmory”, but it involves transferring from FR/LG/E. :P
Mega altaria works too
but why
it falls to life orb sets most of the time unboosted
252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Altaria-Mega: 331-390 (93.5 - 110.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
and even the bulkiest sets without a cotton guard fall in one hit to +1 Dragon Ascent
+1 252+ Atk Life Orb Rayquaza-Mega Dragon Ascent vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Altaria-Mega: 398-468 (112.4 - 132.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Half the game is figuring out Rayquaza's set. Sash chomp, Avalugg, Marshadow, Kyurem-white, Pheromosa, Mega-Slowbro all counter different sets.