How good is Wishiwashi actually?

Question

I would like to know about both competitive and in game battles, including battle tree. Seems a pretty fun but gimmick one....

Could I have kind of pros and cros or something like that?

Oh, I have seen people giving him sitrus berries to hold.. But wouldn't be better those pinch-berries? I'm missing something?

Comments

I've tried using it with Assault Vest with up-and-down results. A very strong Pokemon in school form. Earthquake, Ice Beam, Hydro Pump, and...Iron Tail?

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In game it's fine. Leveled up a bit higher than the opps it's high stats means it usually one shots most Pokémon pretty comfortably. Competitively, it's too slow and unreliable. Not worth using.

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well yeah don't ever use it in high tiers lol, it's way too squishy and slow for that

Answer 1

I'd say wishiwashi is decent. With tr support, its insane. Use it in doubles with a tr healer and you're good. Coverage is terrible on it, but it hits hard enough for it not to matter much. I used this set in doubles

Wishiwashi@leftovers
Evs: 252 hp, 252 atk, 4 spatk
Brave Nature
Schooling
Earthquake- big damage
Scald-for physical walls
Aqua tail/Waterfall- for special walls
u-turn- I guess.

Gardevoir@leftovers
Telepathy
Evs: 200 hp, 252 def, 56 spdef
Sassy Nature
Heal pulse- to keep wishiwashi going strong
Trick room- to make wishiwashi go first
dazzling gleam-STAB, multi target
Psychic- STAB, single target

Comments

Why have a gardevoir as a trick room setter, when hatterne can take advantage of it

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Thanks for the sets! May give it a try. Upvoted.

Answer 2

This Wishiwashi set is good in gen 8 NU.

Wishiwashi @ leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Relaxed nature
- U-turn
- scald
- rest
- sleep talk

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Answer 3

Wishiwashi @ Assault Vest
Ability: Schooling
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Mud Shot
- U-turn

Assault vest gives it extra longevity and helps it against grass and electric moves which are mostly special.

I like to use hydro pump, but you can use scald, surf, or muddy water. If you're using this as part of a trick room doubles team (you should be) then I recommend anything but surf.

Ice beam is a pretty obvious choice for any water type. I can't recommend that you replace it with anything else.

You could use earthquake, but I really favor mud shot. I think it works better on a doubles team, and you're only losing 20 base power when using max quake from mud shot as opposed to earthquake. You could easily swap this out for earthquake, but a teammate such as stakkataka or heatran would certainly appreciate not being hit by a 100 bp 4x effective move.

U-turn isn't super necessary. It's a great move, but it's not as useful on a wishiwashi as it would be on something else. If you were going to replace this with anything else, I would replace it with any of the options I gave to replace other moves.