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What are the list of signature moves that is marked as "usually useless" on Showdown!

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Example:
Roar Of Time, Doom Desire....
Some people think that all signature moves are good, but they are not, so I want to see what moves that are signature aren't good in Competitive.

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  • Kadraba/Alakazam --- Kinesis
  • Exeggcute/Exeggutor --- Barrage
  • Porygon/Porygon-2/Porygon-Z --- Conversion (2)
  • Spinarak/Ariados --- Toxic Thread
  • Delibird --- Present
  • Makuhita/Hariyama --- Smelling Salts
  • Jirachi --- Doom Desire
  • Dialga --- Roar of Time
  • Regigigas --- Crush Grip
  • Kyurem --- Glaciate
  • Kyurem-Black --- Freeze Shock
  • Kyurem-White --- Ice Burn
  • Vivillon --- Powder
  • Inkay/Malamar --- Topsy-Turvy
  • Helioptile/Heliolisk --- Electrify
  • Aromatisse --- Aromatic Mist
  • Oranguru --- Instruct
  • Pyukumuku --- Purify
  • Skwovet/Greedent --- Stuff Cheeks
  • Coalossal --- Tar Shot
  • Polteageist --- Teatime
  • Hatterene --- Magic Powder
  • Impidimp/Morgrem/Grimmsnarl --- Confide
  • Sirfetch'd --- Meteor Assault
  • Alcremie --- Decorate

Signature Moves

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How is confide a signature move to Grimmsnarl line? Tons of Pokémon get confide.
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https://pokemondb.net/move/confide

Confide is it's signature move in gen 8
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I saw almost everything get it by TM in gen 7, I thought they carried over to gen 8
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Instruct is the opposite of useless in double battles
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Why Topsy-Torvy?
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Topsy-Turvy is marked as "Usually Useless" by Showdown. So is Instruct
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I am not sure about that. Malamar could use it on set up sweepers.
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It is way too slow, and who needs Topsy Turvy when Contrary Superpower exists? Also, Malamar is weak also.
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Eh, bad or not, I would still use Topsy-Turvy.
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Doom desire isn't
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Updated answer for gen 9:

These are all the current signature moves which Showdown! says are "Usually Useless", in a Gen 9 Natdex format. I count a signature move to be any move that is only learned by one Pokémon or Evolutionary Line. For example, Roar of Time is not on this list, despite being marked "Usually useless" This is because Arceus and Darkrai can learn it from events, so I don't count it as a signature move. I believe this is the one of the only exceptions for this list, (The only other I saw was Shadow Force) because all the other "Signature" moves other Pokémon can get from events are not "usually useless".

 - Alakazam Line: Kinesis
 - Exeggutor Line: Barrage
 - Porygon Line: Conversion and Conversion 2
 - Ariados Line: Toxic Thread
 - Smeargle: Sketch
 - Vespiquen: Defend Order
 - Chatot: Chatter
 - Regigigas: Crush Grip
 - Cresselia: Lunar Blessing
 - Manaphy Line: Take Heart
 - Darkrai: Dark Void
 - Stunfisk-G: Snap Trap
 - Kyurem-Black: Freeze Shock
 - Kyurem-White: Ice Burn
 - Genesect: Techno Blast
 - Hawlucha: Flying Press
 - Goodra-H Line: Shelter
 - Klefki: Fairy Lock
 - Trevenant Line: Forest's Curse
 - Gourgeist Line: Trick or Treat
 - Zygarde: Land's Wrath
 - Hoopa: Hyperspace Hole
 - Tsareena: Trop Kick
 - Comfey: Floral Healing
 - Oranguru: Instruct
 - Pyukumuku: Purify
 - Turtonator: Shell Trap
 - Necrozma: Prismatic Laser
 - Coalossal: Tar Shot
 - Grapploct: Octolock
 - Polteageist: Teatime
 - Hatterene: Magic Powder
 - Sirfetch'd: Meteor Assault
 - Alcremie: Decorate
 - Eternatus: Eternabeam
 - Zarude: Jungle Healing
 - Grafaifai: Doodle
 - Scovillain: Spicy Extract
- Dipplin/Hydrapple: Syrup Bomb

So there you have it. However, this list is for Gen 9 Natdex, so It doesn't apply to a main series game like Scarlet. Here is another list, this time just for Scarlet and Violet. The reason why I'm using S/V and not Legends Z-A is that while Showdown! has a Z-A format, it's a custom game, and not actual Z-A. Because of this, Showdown! does not have an official section on "Usually Useless" moves for Z-A. Anyways, here's the list.

 - Porygon Line: Conversion and Conversion 2
- Ariados Line: Toxic Thread
 - Smeargle: Sketch
- Hitmontop: Triple Kick
- Vespiquen: Defend Order
- Rhyperior: Rock Wrecker
- Dialga: Roar of Time
- Regigigas: Crush Grip
- Giratina: Shadow Force
 - Cresselia: Lunar Blessing
 - Manaphy Line: Take Heart
 - Darkrai: Dark Void
- Kyurem: Glaciate
- Hawlucha: Flying Press
- Goodra-H line: Shelter
- Klefki: Fairy Lock
 - Trevenant Line: Forest's Curse
- Hoopa: Hyperspace Hole
- Tsareena: Trop Kick
 - Comfey: Floral Healing
 - Oranguru: Instruct
- Necrozma: Prismatic Laser
- Coalossal: Tar Shot
 - Polteageist: Teatime
 - Hatterene: Magic Powder
- Grimmsnarl Line: Confide
- Alcremie: Decorate
- Zarude: Jungle Healing
- Grafaifai: Doodle
 - Scovillain: Spicy Extract
- Dipplin/Hydrapple: Syrup Bomb

There, now you have it. A bit of a long answer, I know, but the old one needed an update. If you notice something wrong with either list, comment so I can fix it.

Sources: Bulbapedia and the Showdown! Teambuilder

Anyways, I hope I helped!

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that is a really good answer,
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Thanks. It took a really long time.
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