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So a while back I asked this question:
https://pokemondb.net/pokebase/382186/will-this-diggersby-strategy-ohko-a-shuckle

And I was wondering again is there any Pokemon that could OHKO Shuckle with Max HP and Def/SpD EVs with a Defense/SpD boosting nature (depends if you use special move, than go with SpD nature) with no Sturdy ability and stat boost?
If there is one, what is the strategy? And no OHKO moves please.
Thanks!

(Sorry if my question isn't allowed or something like that, then please tell me)

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There's plenty of ways to ohko Shuckle. One that comes to mind is Sand force excadrill with life Orb earthquake. Also all the ohko moves
forgot to put no OHKO moves:b
Do you want only one mon which can always OHKO it or a list of all of them?
well, i guess one is good but if you could list some (not all of them) i will be happy:D
The problem with one shotting Shuckle is sturdy. This dumbass ability lets it survive anything by the skin of its teeth. If you really want to kill this thing from full, your best bet is mold breaker Excadrill with z iron head. Well, one of the best bets anyway. Regardless, you will need a pokemon with mold breaker to do this because sturdy. Also, that Excadrill is based if Shuckle goes max hp max spdef. You might need to sd up if it invests in hp and defense
i say, with no sturdy but fine i guess...
Do stat boosts also count?
i guess no, because i want it at the first move when meeting a shuckle, let me edi that up(im not the best at details)

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Physical attackers:

252+ Atk Choice Band Gigalith Rock Blast (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Shuckle: 300-360 (122.9 - 147.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Arctovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 272-324 (111.4 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 296-350 (121.3 - 143.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 Atk Life Orb Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 296-351 (121.3 - 143.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle on a critical hit: 252-294 (103.2 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Adaptability Crawdaunt Crabhammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 264-312 (108.1 - 127.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Melmetal Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 324-384 (132.7 - 157.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Kartana Corkscrew Crash (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 252-296 (103.2 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0 Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Searing Sunraze Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 246-290 (100.8 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+1 252+ Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 254-300 (104 - 122.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (170 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 410-486 (168 - 199.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Special attackers:

252+ SpA Choice Specs Wailord Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle: 242-288 (99.1 - 118%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Aegislash-Blade Steel Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle: 306-362 (125.4 - 148.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Heatran Steel Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle: 290-344 (118.8 - 140.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Magnezone Steel Beam vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle: 290-344 (118.8 - 140.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle: 258-306 (105.7 - 125.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle in Rain: 314-372 (128.6 - 152.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Kyogre-Primal Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle in Heavy Rain: 398-470 (163.1 - 192.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Source: The PS! calculator

These were all the ones I could find. Please comment if I missed anything.

Hope this helps!

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wow, this is great!
can i ask what is the difference of heavy rain and rain?
The effects are same, except for that Heavy Rain lasts forever as long as the mon is active in the field until Desolate Land, or cloud Nine / Delta Stream comes into effect.
now i get it
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The easiest way to do it is with Final Gambit. That way the defense stats aren't relevant at all, the only thing that matters is whether the Final Gambit user has more HP than Shuckle (hint: it does, unless it's Shedinja or Diglett).

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youre right, but i want a real attacking strategy, like damaging move. sorry for not including the details(like i always do) and heres and upvote for you:D
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after SD:
+2 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 8 Def Shuckle: 282-332 (115.5 - 136%) -- guaranteed OHKO
with z:
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Excadrill Corkscrew Crash (160 BP) vs. 252 HP / 8 Def Shuckle: 282-332 (115.5 - 136%) -- guaranteed OHKO

With life orb:
252+ Atk Life Orb Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Sunsteel Strike vs. 252 HP / 8 Def Shuckle: 257-304 (105.3 - 124.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
With z:
0 Atk Necrozma-Dusk-Mane Corkscrew Crash (180 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Shuckle: 242-288 (99.1 - 118%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
with teravolt and dragon dance:
+2 252 Atk Life Orb Teravolt Zekrom Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Shuckle: 259-305 (106.1 - 125%) -- guaranteed OHKO
with mold breaker and dragon dance:
+2 252 Atk Mold Breaker Gyarados-Mega Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Shuckle: 254-300 (104 - 122.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
with broken attack stat:
252 Atk Mold Breaker Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Shuckle: 248-294 (101.6 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Ultra necrozma with z move:
+2 220 Atk Necrozma-Ultra Light That Burns the Sky vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Shuckle: 327-385 (134 - 157.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Here are some of them. I'll add more soon.
Hope I helped!

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Oh yes, i forgot to put HP Investment, silly me
If you could, pls add with HP investment, sorry because i forgot the details
okay no problem
Thanks
i think that's all but ill check for others too if any left.
Why do the first calculations do not have Max Def on Shuckle? And why does Necro DM have Corkscrew Crash over Searing Sunraze Smash? The other calcs do not have a Defense boosting nature on them as the question says. Also, I really really hate answers that are incomplete.

"with no Sturdy ability?" This also means you do not need to only include Sturdy bypassing moves/ability Pokemon.
@Hoenndragon sorry i forgot to put no stat boosting move, im so sorry