Meta-PokéBase Q&A
9 votes
9,019 views

Introduction

Hi. For those of you who don’t know, I’m hosting MrKijani’s Battle of the Titans tourney. This is a single-elimination tournament that will incorporate the biggest and burliest of Pokemon. There won’t be another tour until the latter half of Autumn, so don’t miss your chance to sign up!

Rules

  • Each Pokemon must be at least 5 feet tall OR weigh at least 500 pounds
  • Only one Uber Pokemon allowed
  • Only two OU Pokemon allowed
  • Banlist: Red Orb, Blue Orb, DM-Necrozma, Power Construct, Geomancy, Arceus-Normal
  • To be played in Smogon’s Uber format

Can you fit the requirements and still make a creative team? With these bans you may have to dip into UU, RU, and NU. No spamming those OP Gen6/Gen7 legendaries either. Let's get this battle under way, prepare for the ground to rumble because it's the
BATTLE OF THE TITANS!!!

*This tourney was suggested a while ago, so the banlist is outdated. Red Orb, DM-Necrozma, and Geomancy will be banned instead of Kyogre. Blue Orb, Yveltal, Xerneas, and Power Construct are also bannable, so if you want, leave a comment below or in your signup post telling what you think should or should not be banned.

EDIT: Based on the majority of votes, Blue Orb and Power Construct are banned. Thanks for your support.

ANOTHER EDIT: Arceus-Normal is banned.

  • Note that Pokemon’s height and weight are determined prior to mega evolution or form changing. For example, Mega Mewtwo Y is allowed since Mewtwo’s base form is over 5 feet
  • Also note that UUBL Pokemon aren’t affected by the rule limiting OU Pokemon

Basic rules that will be forever reiterated:

  • Single elimination best of one bracket tournament
  • Battles are to be held in the DB Showdown! server
  • Smogon clauses apply
  • Spectators cannot influence players’ decisions; participants cannot accept outside help
  • You don’t have to use the same team throughout the tournament
  • SAVE YOUR REPLAYS!

How to participate

If you wish to sign up for the Battle of the Titans tour, please leave an answer down below. Include your Pokemon Showdown! username, timezone, and if you want, who you want to be banned. For example:

Blacephalit
UTC-4.00

Ban: Blue Orb, Yveltal, Power Construct, Stakataka

Signing up means commiting to playing; you are only given 1 week to battle your opponents. If players fail to battle within the time limit, the person who made the least effort loses by default. If both players seem to make lots of effort, but still can’t battle, extensions can be made.

Matchups for Round 1 will be posted on Saturday, September 29th. Organize a battle with your opponent, preferably by posting on their wall or commenting on their answer. Make sure to save battle replays.

MrKijani’s Battle of the Titans

Approved by sumwun

by
edited by
If someone doesn’t look at this thread for a whole week, I don’t think they’re trying very hard.
almost 1000 views! also tier shifts happened today. will we do same rule as last torney?
Keep the rules the same until the end of the round? That's what Smogon does.
The only thing that happened was that Zeraora moved to UU
Wrong smogon’s twitter has the monthly tier shifts

22 Answers

0 votes

We still good for signups? Been away for a bit.

Username: Ion DB
Timezone: GMT

Ban: Surprised no-one mentioned E-Killer Arceus.

by
Hmm, I forgot about E-Killer Arceus. It isn’t impossible to check, but I’ll ban it if a few other users agree with your suggestion.
What does 'E-Killer' mean? Is it a normie meme that's so strong that it could kill?
Extreme-Speed Swords Dance (Lum?) Arceus. Always tears holes through teams
Just bring a ghost/steel/rock type with a fighting Z-nuke/toxic :P
We must ban the heck outta that Arceus. It will RUIN everything!
Normal Arceus is easily taken down by anything faster, resists it, or has a good fighting move with STAB or Swords Dance.

252 Atk Mewtwo-Mega-X Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Chople Berry Arceus: 223-264 (50.5 - 59.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
(252+ Atk Arceus Shadow Claw vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Mewtwo-Mega-X: 158-188 (44.7 - 53.2%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO)

+2 252 Atk Adaptability Lucario-Mega Close Combat vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Chople Berry Arceus: 486-572 (110.2 - 129.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252 Atk Gallade-Mega Close Combat vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Chople Berry Arceus: 400-472 (90.7 - 107%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
(252+ Atk Arceus Shadow Claw vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gallade-Mega: 166-196 (59.9 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO)

+2 252+ Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Bullet Punch vs. 240 HP / 0 Def Arceus: 204-241 (46.2 - 54.6%) -- 61.3% chance to 2HKO
(252+ Atk Arceus Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Scizor-Mega: 85-100 (24.7 - 29%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO)

Take it as it is, there are some pokemon that can tank Arceus, but they all are Fighting type/Mega Scizor... for some reason.

I feel this may be too punishing to certain teams:
https://pokemondb.net/pokebase/meta/67430/mrkijanis-battle-of-the-titans-tournament-sign-ups?show=67563#c67563
Just because something has a fair amount of counters doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t threatening. Kartana is OHKOed by a HP Fire from literally every Pokemon, but it’s still banned from a lot of formats, such as Monotype.
I hate Kartanas.
0 votes

Signups are now closed. Matchups for Round 1 will be posted Saturday, September 29th, and battles will begin the following Sunday.

Also, Arceus-Normal has been recently added to the banlist.

by
edited by
There is a specific deadline. Users have until that deadline to battle. If they can't they get DQ'd at the hosts discretion. I felt like this was obvious.
I feel like it’s unfair to disqualify someone just because I don’t think they’re active (maybe some people check this thread regularly but don’t comment or vote). If someone doesn’t make an attempt to battle their opponent within these 8 days, then I’ll DQ him/her/it. Also, it wasn’t a requirement for participants to vote.
Normal Extreme Speed Arceus is especially potent in that it can have HP investment and Hold a Chople Berry, often preventing it from being nuked. Since other Arceus don't get Stab and have more than one weakness (except Electric Arceus), they can't utilize Extreme speed killing as effectively.

Electric Arceus can hold an Air balloon but doesn't get Stab Extreme Speed; still, it might be a problem if Ground Stab and Coverage being common isn't enough to stop it (with or without an Air Balloon)/Extreme Speed being too powerful on any Swords Dance Arceus.

I don't think Extreme Speed should be banned specifically (It isn't OP on stuff like Dragonite/Zygarde), but Banning Extreme Speed on Arceus (or just Normal/Electric Arceus) only could work. (Assuming you think any other Arceus with Extreme Speed would be OP). :P
Electric Arceus can't hold air balloons...
oh, yeah, that's what happens when you stay up too late and try to be intelligent :P