MrKijani’s Battle of the Titans tournament! [won by Jofly]

Question

Introduction

Hi. For those of you who don’t know, I’m hosting MrKijani’s Battle of the Titans tourney. This is a single-elimination tournament that will incorporate the biggest and burliest of Pokemon. There won’t be another tour until the latter half of Autumn, so don’t miss your chance to sign up!

Rules

• Each Pokemon must be at least 5 feet tall OR weigh at least 500 pounds
• Only one Uber Pokemon allowed
• Only two OU Pokemon allowed
• Banlist: Red Orb, Blue Orb, DM-Necrozma, Power Construct, Geomancy, Arceus-Normal
• To be played in Smogon’s Uber format

Can you fit the requirements and still make a creative team? With these bans you may have to dip into UU, RU, and NU. No spamming those OP Gen6/Gen7 legendaries either. Let's get this battle under way, prepare for the ground to rumble because it's the
BATTLE OF THE TITANS!!!

*This tourney was suggested a while ago, so the banlist is outdated. Red Orb, DM-Necrozma, and Geomancy will be banned instead of Kyogre. Blue Orb, Yveltal, Xerneas, and Power Construct are also bannable, so if you want, leave a comment below or in your signup post telling what you think should or should not be banned.

EDIT: Based on the majority of votes, Blue Orb and Power Construct are banned. Thanks for your support.

ANOTHER EDIT: Arceus-Normal is banned.

• Note that Pokemon’s height and weight are determined prior to mega evolution or form changing. For example, Mega Mewtwo Y is allowed since Mewtwo’s base form is over 5 feet
• Also note that UUBL Pokemon aren’t affected by the rule limiting OU Pokemon

Basic rules that will be forever reiterated:

• Single elimination best of one bracket tournament
• Battles are to be held in the DB Showdown! server
• Smogon clauses apply
• Spectators cannot influence players’ decisions; participants cannot accept outside help
• You don’t have to use the same team throughout the tournament
• SAVE YOUR REPLAYS!

How to participate

If you wish to sign up for the Battle of the Titans tour, please leave an answer down below. Include your Pokemon Showdown! username, timezone, and if you want, who you want to be banned. For example:

Blacephalit
UTC-4.00

Ban: Blue Orb, Yveltal, Power Construct, Stakataka

Signing up means commiting to playing; you are only given 1 week to battle your opponents. If players fail to battle within the time limit, the person who made the least effort loses by default. If both players seem to make lots of effort, but still can’t battle, extensions can be made.

Matchups for Round 1 will be posted on Saturday, September 29th. Organize a battle with your opponent, preferably by posting on their wall or commenting on their answer. Make sure to save battle replays.

MrKijani’s Battle of the Titans

Approved by sumwun

Comments

I think having the restriction of at least two Pokémon that have over 500 pounds in weight. Since there are many Pokémon over 5 feet, and most people could put their team full with it.

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I probably won't do this one. The stall potential seems too low. But I think Maractus needs to be banned. If you're participating, please vote to ban Maractus.

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Dang, you’re right. Maractus is so OP in this format.

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I might join if Power Construct stays.

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Maractus is too short to join anyway.

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Are these single or double battles?

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Single battles. Sorry for not specifying.

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Okay. <space>

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Phooey. Power Construct was overruled. I'm staying anyway though.

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can we use 3 ou but no ubers? not that anyone would do it

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MrKijani’s original post doesn’t say you have to use at least two 500 lb. Pokemon, nor does it say you can use 3 OU Pokemon. I honestly want to avoid changing the rules too much.

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What do you think about Hoopa unbound being allowed in this tourney?

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I don’t think Hoopa-U is that OP.

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I know this is Ubers/OU but can I bring Mega Rayquaza?

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No, Mega Rayquaza is banned in Uber.

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Just great. No Rayquaza or Zygarde.

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@Guy Fieri - Yay.

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Sorry, they’re just too powerful for this format. Just use normal Rayquaza and Zygarde.

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I think we should ban mega Mewtwo X.

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"Also note that UUBL Pokemon aren’t affected by the rule limiting OU Pokemon." Does this also affect PUBL? Meaning if I use Charizard and it Mega Evolves into Mega Charizard X, would I still be able to use two more OU Pokémon?

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@Pokè Guy Fieri No, if a Pokemon mega evolves into something in OU, that counts as an OU Pokemon, even if the base form is low tier. What I meant by the UUBL rule is that you are allowed to use 2 OU Pokemon and multiple UUBL Pokemon. Likewise, you can use multiple Pokémon from UU, RUBL, RU, NUBL, etc.

@Azelfeo I don’t think Mega Mewtwo X will be too OP for this, but I’ll ban it if other people agree with you.

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Mewtwo Y would counter X, unless X has special defense. Scarfed Mewtwo beats Y, etc. They won't be unbeatable, but they may be common :P

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Please ban Ultranecrozium Z.

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I don't think we should. That is like saying Ultra Necrozma/Dawn wings Necrozma Will survive the first Crunch that hits them. They have to survive 1 Turn before using their Z-move. Ultra Necrozma's defenses are pretty low; a faster Mewtwo/Mega Mewtwo can OHKO it before it even moves, and Sucker Punch/Dark type Pokemon in general destroy it. Swords Dance is more of a set up on Dusk Mane Necrozma (so it can take a hit), then Ultra for more attack when you got enough. Since Dusk Mane Necrozma is banned, I don't think it'll be a problem. :P

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Okay. I'm just afraid there will be that one person who raises it's stats with Calm Mind and starts sweeping with Stored Power.

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Please ban Black/White Kyurem.

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white kyurem i dont have a problem with so idc if it gets banned or not but black kyurem is sorta troublesome to me but not that big of a threat

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is pokemon that is under the height limit but mega evolve and get the height limits allowed? like salamence

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@KirbyCuteKing No, a Pokemon has to fit the requirements before mega evolving.
@Poké Guy Fieri The Kyurem forms aren’t that fast and have a lot of weaknesses, so I think it’s too easily countered to have to be banned.

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Just battle whoever trippsyouup is and they used a Pokemon that was only 4"11. Checked on the db. Is this ok as I type in (for instance) Bisharp height and it comes in as (let's say) 1.5m. But Google rounds up. Anything heigher than 4"10 rounds up to 1.5m. Is this Ok?

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Bisharp's height is 5'03" according to bulbapedia :P

Source: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bisharp_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

which pokemon wasn't tall enough? (all pokemon I test battled with you were above 5 ft tall :P)

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No my point is that some Pokemon's height get rounded up to 1.5 metres (5") wen just googling _______ height. Can I use these as some of them are actually 4"11?

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No (filler)

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Ayy 16 participants!

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Are sign-ups closed now?

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No, then the killer would just Dunseparce us out.
Dunsparce is too OP for this

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Can I use M-Blaziken as it is already an uber before mega evolving?

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Ban the E-Killer Arceus! :P

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E-Killer Arceus Punishes those without Fighting Stab/Mega Scizor too roughly. I agree.

I have made a list of all qualifying pokemon (that are not banned; and pokemon that can mega on the list (except Rayquaza) has the mega allowed as well, as stated in the rules) if you guys are interested :P

Edit: Here (it is a pastebin link)

https://pastebin.com/Y5eFaHzK

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Can I see pls

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The "qualified by height" list seems significantly longer.

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There are a lot more pokemon taller than 5 feet than there are heavier than 500 lbs. :P

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On the first part it says Pakia not Palkia

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https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pokémon_by_height

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Bye Arceus.

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What's the ruling on things such as Salamence and Heracross? Pre-mega, they don't fit the requirements, but they do post Mega. I'd assume they're allowed as long as they are Mega Stone holders, but just checking.

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>No, a Pokemon has to fit the requirements before mega evolving.
Kind of like how Pinsir is banned in Monotype even if has a Mega Stone. Also, since mega stone holders don’t have to mega evolve, it’s not always possible to determine whether or not it’s actually holding its Mega Stone.

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So, can I use Blaziken-M as it is already an Uber before Mega Evolution? Also what about Metagross-M as it is Uber after Mega but not without? Will it count as Ubers if I mega evolve? Coz then I have one Ubers

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Just like Charizard, if you bring Metagross holding it's Mega Stone, then it counts as an Uber. I'm not sure about Blaziken.

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Yeah, you can use M-Blaziken. The tier of the mega evolution is what counts. Sorry for late response.

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Just checking. TBH I only have one team which I used vs Stakatakacool. Also what about Metagross and it's Mega

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Mega Metagross also counts as an Uber Pokémon.

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UUBL count as OU?

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no use as many as u want

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at happens if my competition does not resond to my attpemts to battle them?

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After a week of not responding, he/she/it gets disqualified.

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But if both people try really hard, they get a couple of days extra.

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If someone doesn’t look at this thread for a whole week, I don’t think they’re trying very hard.

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almost 1000 views! also tier shifts happened today. will we do same rule as last torney?

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Keep the rules the same until the end of the round? That's what Smogon does.

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The only thing that happened was that Zeraora moved to UU

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Wrong smogon’s twitter has the monthly tier shifts

Answer 1

_{Probably should've done this sooner}

The Battle of the Titans of the Titans tourney has officially concluded!

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1st place: Jofly
2nd place: Ion

Comments

How did you make those small letters? TELL ME.

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Wrap your text inside _Text tags @ Vulpix
<sup> should give a similar effect except it'll push the text upwards instead of a bit downwards.

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Okay, thanks.

Answer 2

Matchups for Round 2 are up!

X-Scizor vs. KirbyCuteKing

Octazooka vs. Jofly

Ion vs. KRLW890

Alolan Vulpix vs. EdDaBoss

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Schedule a battle with your opponent by posting on their wall or commenting on their answer. After battling, agree who will save the battle replay, and post it as a comment on this answer. Battles are due Sunday, October 14th.

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R2 Winners: KirbyCuteKing, Alolan Vulpix, Jofly, Ion

Comments

"Octazookavs. Jofly"

Typo alert :O.

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i reckon ion should move on.

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in exactly 1 hour and 48 minutes one of them will be disqualified (for me).

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Hey! Its the 14th. How come nothing is happening?

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Lost to Ion: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ubers-4877
Sorry for waiting until the last minute.

Answer 3

Matchups for Round 1 are up!

Ion vs. Meta Ridley

Alolan Vulpix vs. SeeYaLater!

Stakatacool vs. Jofly

Poké Guy Fieri vs. X-Scizor

KirbyCuteKing vs. Molthree

ForretressExplosion vs. Octazooka

EdDaBoss vs. Azelfeo

KRLW890 vs. thecranpper

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Schedule a battle with your opponent by posting on their wall or commenting on their answer. After battling, agree who will save the battle replay, and post it as a comment on this answer. Battles are due Sunday, October 7th. Good luck!

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R1 Winners: Ion, Alolan Vulpix, Jofly, X-Scizor, KirbyCuteKing, Octazooka, EdDaBoss, KRLW890

Comments

@KRLW890 your team is illegal. Blissey is only 4’11.

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looks like they need a rematch

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Huh, you're right. Guess veekun's search tool was wrong. I'll contact carnapper.

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omg the rematch was soooooooooooooo close the double protect saved KRLW890

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AYYY!!
It was a tough battle betwween and my partner....
totally...

Answer 4

Matchups for Semi-finals are up!

Ion vs. KirbyCuteKing

Jofly vs. Alolan Vulpix

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Schedule a battle with your opponent by posting on their wall or commenting on their answer. .After battling, agree who will save the battle replay, and post it as a comment on this answer. Battles are due by the end of Tuesday, October 23rd (around 10:00 GMT). THIS IS THE LAST TIME THIS ROUND WILL BE EXTENDED, so please try to battle as soon as possible.

Comments

@X-Scizor, If Jofly is available at 8:30 (maybe earlier, it depends) my time tomorrow, then yes, I can battle.

@Jofly, Are you available at 8:30 my time (10:30 your time) tomorrow?

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What? No, you said your timezone is UTC-5/UTC-4, and Jofly’s timezone is UTC+2 (not -2), so Jofly is 6 or 7 hours ahead of you. Meaning when it’s 8:30 P.M. in your timezone, it’s 2:30-3:30 A.M. in his. I don’t think he’ll be online that late, so do you think you can battle earlier?

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I’ll be online today as well after 5pm my time.

EDIT: I still have some work to do so it would be easier if you gave me any time between 5pm-11pm my time. I'll make sure to be online at whatever time you choose.

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I will choose 10:00 P.M. (your time). If I am not there, then wait untill 10:30 (your time).

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@X-Scizor, Let Jofly move on...

Answer 5

FINAL ROUND!

Ion vs. Jofly

Congratulations!

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Congratulations to both finalists. Battles are due Wednesday, October 31st. Good luck!

Comments

Well done Jof!

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Can’t wait till next tournament. I’ll win for sure!

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Ah man, I missed it. Congrats, Jofly!

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thanks guys

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Yeet. Good one Jofly.

Answer 6

PikaPaul900
EST (UTC-4)

Answer 7

Nickname: TheWhiteTiger727
Timezone: CEST, I'll try to battle on your best time, though, after 22:30 CEST it's probably better to battle me at Saturday.

This is the time for me to claim a win.
Be ready for trouble! I'll win to you with just a Bubble!

Comments

I'm afraid a bubble won't be enough :P.

Answer 8

I’m in.

SD! Username: KRLW890
Timezone: UTC-5
I should be available most days after and around 1 PM.

I think we should ban Blue Orb and Power Construct, but Xerneas and Yveltal are fine. I don’t have much experience with Ubers, though, so I might not have the best judgment in this regard.

Answer 9

Showdown! Username: NebbyY
EDT (UTC -4)

I say ban Power Construct.

Answer 10

I won't screw it up this time.

Jofly
CEST (UTC +2)

Ban Blue Orb and Power Construct.

Comments

Did you screw it up before?

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you didnt screw up on me i can tell ya that

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You are 7 hours ahead of me. I can battle today, tommorrow, next saturday adn nex sunday

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Are you ready to battle?

Answer 11

Name: SecretForestGuy130
Time: EDT (UTC -4)

My time has come, to join!
Hopefully this will be better than that Arceus tourney.

Answer 12

Username: The Poipole.

Time-zone: EDT (UTC -4/UTC -5).

I hope I don't screw up. I will use the same team in all my battles. I don't believe in changing my team during any type of competition.

I have never done this before.

Comments

Good luck. But I won't go easy (I suck at Competetive so you're gonna win anyway)

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@EdDaBoss - Okay guy. Good luck to you too! Also, I'm practically un-predictable.

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I'm on right now, I'll let u know on ur wall

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Emm, I'm not sure which zone UTC is so I can't do the conversion. But almost all day on Saturday and Sunday, then on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday from 5pm onwards (my time). Sometimes I just go on Showdown randomly, so just keep checking. Thanks!

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AZELFEO when you are next online can you please post on my wall a list of all the times you are DEFINITELY available, so we can coordinate.

Answer 13

Showdown! name: EdDaBoss
Timezone: GMT+0

I shall try my best!!
(available mostly after 5pm my time)

Comments

It's a slim chance but I could try.

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Wait go on Showdown right now and I can battle

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(Two hours late. Dang it) I’ll try my best to battle you tomorrow.

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Ok that's fine. I can do from 2pm to 4pm (your time) later if you can

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I am ready Ed.

Answer 14

Might as well.
Username: Electric Z
Time Zone: GMT-5
Usually available after 2pm

I think we should ban Dratini, it's way too powerful for this tournament
Same with E-Killer Arceus
But Dratini especially

Comments

You guys are just joking. If Dratini is a threat then Dragonair is even worse.

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That's what Dratini wants you to think

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Uh, okay. Imagine a E-Killer Arceus with the Life Orb/Lum Berry/Chople Berry.

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Which Dratini easily takes down

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sXQoGcMN1U

Answer 15

I'm gonna do better than the last one, I know it!

Trippsyouup
EST (UTC-4)

I think Power Construct should be banned.

Edit: Band Extreme Speed Killer Arceus It punishes whoever doesn't have Mega Scizor/Strong Fighting types too badly :P

;P

Comments

ban: blacephalon

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Naw, Blacephalon is lucky to have the privilege as a choice. In all honesty, the amount of ground and water types make Blace quite useless :P

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Stakataka does even worse against ground and water types lol

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but Stakataka has it's uses, and Is the most noble wall this world has ever been graced with. Stakataka will be better support than Blacephalon a sweeper :P

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When do you want to play?

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I'll be on tomorrow. Probably between 12Pm and 3pm (my time), as we discussed in chat. :P

Answer 16

thecarnapper5
UTC -5

Answer 17

Me too: MoonlitMadness

Central Daylight Time

Ban: Red ORB: Dusk Mane Necrozma

Comments

But those things are already banned lol.

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I want them banned out of this wolrd...

Answer 18

im down :P
username: KirbyCuteKing

UTC+10 (changing to UTC+11 in 9 days)

ban: blacephalon. yeah im banning you blacephalit

Answer 19

Pokémon Showdown! username: Marvelous Metroid
Timezone: EDT

Comments

Hi AV I'm playing you next. I'm free on Monday at 5 pm (my time) or 2 pm (your time)

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Are you available today at 2:00 P.M. (my time)? I don't think I would make it at 2:00 P.M. on Monday, or any week day. There's a really slim chance I would make it.

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Well I can't do 2 but I can do 3-4 pm your time if you can

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3:00 - 4:00 P.M. my time, today? That is perfect!

Answer 20

Ri Unite
PDT (UTC -7)

I feel you should ban:
ability: Harvest, Sturdy, Wonder Guard, Effect Spore
move: Stealth Rock, Fly, Sleep powder, Thunder Wave, Spore, Stun Spore, Moonlight, Synthesis
pokemon: Shedinja, Blissey Chancey, Mega Lopunny
Item: Iapapa Berry, Life Orb

Comments

not primal groudon, not xerneas, shedinja...

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Shedinja is too short to join anyway.

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shedinja is banned in the first place cuz it isnt heavy enough or tall enough

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1) All of the Pokemon you mentioned are already banned because they aren’t tall or heavy enough.
2) Spore/Sleep Powder are affected by Sleep Mod, so I don’t think they don’t need to banned.
3) Everything else you listed is not OP at all.

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Are you communicating with your opponent? Maybe you should allow people to post on your wall for the duration of the tour.

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I am 2 hours ahead of you, so tell m what time is good for you

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I don’t think you’ll ever be online.