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The Team runs Anti Metagame itself, Mamoswine, as I have had several problems with Ninetails, and Grass Types. I'm still not decided to run LO Mamo or Scarf.. I'll need to test them. And the Team runs the most prominent Pokemon to be used in Rain, Hydration Wall Vaporeon. Vaporeon in action, as shown before.Salamence isn't working out, so i'm gonna replace it with Landorus-T/Gliscor, so i'm not open to Terrakion and other Rock/Fighting threats. But this Mence will come back to the RMT soon.


Landorus-T @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 200 HP / 64 Atk / 244 Def
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stone Edge


Politoed @ Choice Specs
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 252 SAtk / 216 HP / 36 Spd
Modest Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Hidden Power [Grass]


Thundurus-Therian @ Life Orb
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Timid Nature
- Agility
- Thunder
- Grass Knot
- Hidden Power [Fighting]


Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Trait: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 164 SDef / 88 Def
Sassy Nature
- Spikes
- Thunder Wave
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip


Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 Atk / 172 Spd / 80 Def
Jolly Nature
- Icicle Crash
- Earthquake
- Icicle Spear
- Superpower


Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 4 Def / 252 HP / 252 SDef
Sassy Nature
- Heal Bell
- Rest
- Scald
- Acid Armor

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I love this team
WB Mike.
Thanks you two x)
gogogogo lord mike! i like this team a lot. xD +1
Thanks Xerilia!! :)
... And I thought I was good at rain. Love it.
Thanks Flame!! ^-^
I have a few suggestions, pretty minor.
- Run Timid over Modest on Thundurus-Therian. It's unique 101 base Speed allows it to outspeed 100 base Speed Pokemon such as Salamence, which is commonly Scarfed nowadays.
- Why run Sassy on Vaporeon when you have an option of Calm (+SDef, -Atk)? Vaporeon isn't using its Attack stat anyways, and it also would be nice to outspeed slower Pokemon and surprise them with Rest.
-Thought I had Timid, lol. Gotta fix that.
-Sassy ensures ill be slower, and that makes me get a Full Rest with no damage.
But wouldn't Sassy make you more prone to attacks? It can be dangerous at low HP.
Yes, that's the point.
I had to comment with det so people could see it more.

This team... is so amazing. But that is your standard iNverted for ya :D
Only thing I need to fix are the EVs, stupid server...
I see you've opted for Mamo over Breloom to deal with Virizion xP
Your face is. And Mamo OHKOs it
Ik I edited when I saw det new Mamo
Nice team/victory

The team looks pretty good but can be improved :)
I think the biggest problem is that you have built it as an anti meta team that focuses heavily on what is standard such as TTar but almost forgetting about the rest of the tier and other common Pokemon.
This means Pokemon like Amoonguss can come in (yes maybe not the most common example) and force many switches which brings me onto your next problem. You focus to much on Pokemon like TTar as mentioned meaning there is little coverage and means of dealing with the other Pokemon forcing you to make switches. Switches your team can't afford to take without a spinner with 3/6 of your Pokemon being weak to SR. Mamo being the number one counter to the metagame is being relied on to much being your general hard hitter, revenge killer and late game sweeper. With Mamos weakness you can't afford to predict wrong meaning you can't redeem yourself when you make a mistake because of the scarf. This means you may have lost about 25% for nothing. Forretress could be a good replacement for Ferrothorn but then you loose the ability to force switches on the opponents part.

Rotom-W is a major threat. It hits your whole team (excluding ferrothorn) hard with Hydro Pumps and Volt Switches and even then it can burn Ferro putting more pressure on you to send out Vaporeon.

The list goes on and I think its because of how the team has been built. Its been built to counter the standard meta so much that certain threats can rip you apart as you are forced to switch in Pokemon which you can not constantly afford to switch in such as Salamence. Pokemon like Terrakion just tear you apart without Salamence which puts allot of pressure on keeping it around.

For my few suggestions I would replace Salamence for Landorus-T. It may not have reliable recovery but it doesn't have a major weakness to rocks. It can also build up momentum with U-turn and fire off high powered stab earthquakes which Salamence could not. Salamence doesn't honestly offer much to the team with it having a very common weakness to Latias/os which Landorus-T checks and isn't as afraid of. It can set up rocks early on which is ideal for my next suggestion of using Forretress over Ferro for its ability to spin which is much needed. If Ferro wasn't pressured to set up rocks and spin the there isn't as much as a problem. It can use Spikes instead which would very much benefit the team for Mamos sake. Hidden Power Fight I see being used allot and I always wonder why. Sure the acc is nice but the 50 power drop is insane and likely won't be ko'ing anything needed. It would likely 3hko Ferro which means it could Gyro, leech seed, set up ect. Focus Miss though unreliable, actually does the job and will ko things like Heatran when needed. Mamo does not need dual stab. If you insist on running a dual stab then I would suggest Ice Shard over Icicle crash as it deals with Breloom in the situation need be and hits Scarf users like Latios. Currently Vaporeon is set up fodder. Acid Amrour gets you no where when the opponent can switch in a Pokemon such as Latias and start Calm Minding behind a sub. Sending in Mamo would be risky meaning you would really need a free switch which could mean death foddering a Pokemon. Obviously Vaporeon wouldn't have a chance anyway but a move such as Ice Beam or Toxic would be nice to hit it on the switch in making it almost useless. Acid Armour is just two gimmicky I find.

I don't know whether you will consider my suggestions or not but they should be beneficial.
Congrats on successful team.
Blobby why didn't you answer with that??
lol I would write like 7000 characters for a team like this :) Its good with improvements to be made but at the same time replacements are needed and problems need to be discussed :P
Rotom-W isn't really a threat to this, because it's usually 2HKOed by Poli's Hydro Pump. No Rotom-W caused trouble to this Team. I see what you mean by a Terrakion weakness, but i really love Mence... i'll see what I can do. And I had Ice Beam on Vappy, but i found it useless in the Rain, Scald always hit stronger, so I rather make it support the Team with Heal Bell. Also, Toxic contradicts having Thunder Wave, so i wouldn't suggest it. Acid Armor got the job done for me, but i'll fix it up
The only Rotom that would cause trouble is TrickSpecs
TrickSpecs Rotom causes trouble no matter what >.<
we all should know...
Did someone downvote this? Not downvote worthy...
Or someone removed a vote. Don't give it in the first place if your going to remove it.

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