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I love Persian so much. An evil genius cat that is the signature Pokémon of the Team Rocket leader, Giovanni. I have two sets, Physical and Special.

Physical:

Persian @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Nature: Jolly (+Spe, -Spa)
EVs: 252 Att / 252 Spe / 4 HP

  • Fake Out

  • Play Rough

  • Gunk Shot

  • Knock Off

Fake Out is STAB and is boosted by STAB and Life Orb, essentially giving you a one turn 135 base power flinch move. Play Rough covers a lot of types, especially fighting types that can usually OHKO you. Gunk Shot covers grass and fairy types, and has quite a lot of power. Knock Off allows for Persian to cripple switch ins with their item being removed. It also has great neutral coverage. This Persian has enough coverage for Fighting, Dark, Dragon, Grass, Fairy, Psychic, Ghost types.

Special:

Persian @ Life Orb
Ability: Limber
Nature: Timid (-Atk, +Spe)
EVs: 252 Spa / 252 Spe / 4 HP

  • Nasty Plot

  • Hyper Voice

  • Dark Pulse

  • Thunderbolt / Power Gem

Set up with Nasty Plot and spam your coverage moves. Hyper Voice has a base power of 135 and allows you to bypass Substitutes. With Dark Pulse, you can damage ghost types that are immune to Hyper Voice and damage psychic types. You have a choice of either Thunderbolt or Power Gem for coverage. Thunderbolt nails water and flying types, while Power Gem allows you to hit fire and ice types for super effective damage. Limber is used because this Persian does not use weak moves.

Personally, I love using the Special set. You can catch so many people off guard.

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Gen V

Persian (M) @ Life Orb

Trait: Technician

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

  • Taunt
  • Bite
  • Aerial Ace
  • Fake Out

A great lead, especially in NU. Start with Technician+STAB+Life Orb boosted Fake Out, a neutral hit can usually halve the health of the opponent. Taunt prevents Entry Hazard setting, or any other non-attacking move your opponent might use. Aerial Ace and Bite get boosted by Technician. Standard sweeper EVs.

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Persian (M) @ Bug Gem

Role: Annoying Piece of Crap

Trait: Technician

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Aerial Ace
  • Fake Out
  • Faint Attack
  • U-turn

Well, here's the layout.

Start with STAB Fake-out with Technician Boost can pack quite a punch.

Then Continue to Sweep With Ariel Ace and Faint Attack, Or Go home with U-turn.

Bug Gem giving U-turn a boost like the technician moves.

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Double/Triple battle

Persian (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Water Pulse
- Round
- Icy Wind
- Switcheroo

Persian runs completely different in multi-battles. While it has a poor Special Attack stat, Technician and Specs helps make up for that. Water Pulse gets that Technician boost and can hit any foe in a Triple battle. Round gets STAB, Technician boosted, and gets more powerful if you have other Pokemon using it. This can make Round very powerful indeed. Icy Wind gets boosted by Technician and hits multiple foes, lowering their Speed. Switcheroo is for if you get tired of Specs or want to cripple something.

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Read fully before downvoting!

Now, for the set!
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Persian @ Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
-Fake Out
-Hone Claws
-Aerial Ace
-Feint Attack

Alright lemme explain. I was thinking of suggesting Scratch which is OK with Technician which will get it boosted to 90. but then, doesn't 2 Normal-type moves seem reluctant? So I thought of this set! In PU and NU, this set will function fairly well, So Fake Out is to break those Sashes and gets a boost to 90! Then use Hone Claws, and proceed to attack. Aerial Ace and Feint Attack are both boosted to 90 BP with Technician. Aerial Ace also covers its only weakness: Fighting. Feint Attack over Knock Off because no more Technician boost! :'( Other than that though, this set works out good.

Hope this set brings victory to many!

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My previous Swagger set, now with 50% more gimmick

Persian
Persian @ Normalium Z
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Punishment
- Fake Out
- Swagger
- Aerial Ace

Explanation:

Punishment receives the 1.5x Technician boost only if Swagger's Atk boost isn't present.
Fake Out is boosted by Technician and can enable Breakneck Blitz.
Swagger raises the target's Atk by 2 and confuses it. Also, oddly enough, Ghost types aren't immune.
Aerial Ace is Technician-boosted coverage, mostly for Fighting types.

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Wow ! Thats a so great set !
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Gen III

Persian (M) @ Choice Band

Ability: Limber

EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd

Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Shadow Ball
  • Body Slam
  • Mud-Slap
  • Iron Tail

Shadow Ball Covers the Ghosties mainly, but does a number on Psychics as well, and with Alakazam being a major threat, that's nice to have.

Body Slam is STAB with the Para-Chance, which makes it more worth while than Frustration or Return.

Mud Slap is generally a pain to fight agaisn't with Choice Band, making it do damage, with the speed to go first and use it several times, it hurts a decent amount, while lowering accuracy has a high chance.

Iron Tail is for high powered coverage, I would have different choices for this slot, but Persian doesn't have anything better in his movepool.

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Persian (M) @ Normal Gem
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Fake Out
- Bite
- Aerial Ace/Body Slam
- U-Turn

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Errm... Bite?
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Persian (M) @ Life Orb

Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)

  • Nasty Plot
  • Swift
  • Water Pulse
  • Thunderbolt
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Persian
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Nature: Hasty/Adamant
EVs: 252 Speed. 252 Attack, 4 Special Defense
Moveset:
Night Slash (Coverage, high critical hit ratio)
Play Rough (Is a must! Protects is against Fighting-Types, it's only weakness!)
U-Turn (Switches Persian out if need be)
Retaliate (STAB, double power if ally fainted the turn before)

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How do you get Play Rough on Persian! Please tell me, I need to know! :(
Well you just go to the move relearner. Play Rough should be one of the moves you can choose to relearn.
Yeah, just figured it out not too long ago. XD Thanks!
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Persian @ Silk Scarf / Focus Sash
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Swift
- Power Gem
- Foul Play

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Persian (F) @ Wide Lens
Ability: Limber
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hypnosis
- Nasty Plot
- Dark Pulse
- Dream Eater

Hypnosis puts your enemy to sleep, and with the Wide Lens it has more accuracy (only 10%, but still). Nasty Plot sharply increases Special Attack. Dark Pulse boosted by Nasty Plot is a deadly move. When your enemy is sleeping you can heal yourself and do a great amount of damage with Dream Eater.

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If you think Last Resort is a bad move, try this:

Persian @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Toxic
- Protect
- Last Resort

Fake Out is STAB and makes the opponent flinch on the first turn. Toxic is for badly poisoning the opponent. Protect is for stalling. Last Resort is powerful STAB once the other moves have been used.

So, after using this set, Last Resort still probably isn't the best move. But it's always fun to watch something get smacked by it!

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I absolutely love this set

Persian @Life Orb
Trait: Technician
Timid Nature
EVs: 4 Hp, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
-Nasty Plot
-Swift
-Shock Wave
-Water Pulse/Icy Wind

When your opponent sees Persian, they will think that you'll go for Fake Out, so they'll switch into their Wall/Tank/Ghost type. But that's when you use Nasty Plot. After that, you pretty much have won the game(unless your opponent has priority such as Mach Punch)

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Persian @ Razor Claw
Ability: Limber
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Hone Claws
- Slash
- Shadow Claw
- Night Slash

All these different high critical hit ratio moves are also boosted with Hone Claws and the critical hit ratio boost from Persian's Razor Claw. Not to mention that, since each move is a different type, this moveset covers almost every type. See, all these moves besides Hone Claws have a high critical hit ratio by themselves. Not to mention Persian boosting it with Razor Claw. Add that with Hone Claws upping its damage Attack, meaning massive damage. With Speed as high as this, too, you can move first most of the time.

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Physical Set

Persian @ Normal Gem
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Fake Out
- Fury Swipes / Scratch
- Aerial Ace
- Knock Off

Special Set

Persian @ Expert Belt
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Swift
- Icy Wind
- Shock Wave
- Water Pulse

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Persian (F) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Technician
Timid Nature
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Swift
- Shock Wave
- Water Pulse
- Nasty Plot

Swift is STAB that doesn't miss, with 90 base power because of Technician. Shock Wave is the same as Swift, but not STAB. Water Pulse is the same as Shock Wave, but with a 20% chance of confusing foes. Nasty Plot should make you a threat.

You can also try this:

Persian (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Swift
- Shock Wave
- Water Pulse
- Nasty Plot

For setting up Nasty Plot, probably three times. Swift is STAB that doesn't miss, with 90 base power because of Technician. Shock Wave is the same as Swift, but not STAB. Water Pulse is the same as Shock Wave, but with a 20% chance of confusing foes. Nasty Plot should make you a threat.

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Persian (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Technician
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 Def / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+ Spd, - Atk)
- Swift
- Water Pulse
- Nasty Plot
- Hypnosis / Attract

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Persian (M)
@ Silk Scarf / Life Orb
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk) / Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)

  • Hypnosis / Taunt
  • Fake Out
  • Feint
  • U-turn / Bite

This role is mostly supporter , the fast Hypnosis is a great gift but the accuracy is a problem you can choose Taunt for stop hazards setting Pokemon or annoyers Pokemon in general.

The combination of Fake Out and Feint let you play some mental games with your foe , if your opponent predict you will use Fake Out and use Protect and similar moves, the next turn you can U-Turn and Switch in a good counter , then send Persian again but this time use Feint in your foe that will think you will be use Fake Out again , then break his/her protect and attack.

Feint is a weak move but with Technician and STAB become a move with enough power to be decent , priority + 2 and the plus to able broken Protect and similar moves.

If you use a Technician Persian don't remove Feint, Feint is the attack that differentiate Persian from similar Pokemon like Ambipom and Purugly that can run a similar set.

You also can use an Adamant nature and boost the cat power , and still be fast enough to outspeed speed base 95 Pokemon with a speed boosting nature , and with two priority move you can attack first even to Pokemon that outspeed Persian.

Persian is frail , some good teammates are Pokemon with Intimidate like Arcanine and Salamance , if ghost Pokemon are a trouble for you , you can replace U-Turn for Bite

Persian (M)
@ Fairinium
Trait: Unnerve
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)

  • Charm
  • Fake Out
  • Return / Shadow Claw
  • Play Rough

This set take advantages from the two Fairy moves Persian can learn :

Z-Charm turn This little cougar in a physical wall reducing your opponent attack two stages and raising his defense 1 stage.

Twinke Tackle inflict massive damage to commons dragons like Garchomp also fighting type Pokemon to want threat Persian.

Shadow Claw round his coverage against ghost types, is preferred over Night Slash for hit supper effective Gardevoir , Tapu Lele and Mimikyu , you can also ditch the Ghost coverage and choice more power with a STAB Return.

Unnerve is the prefered ability , you can stop Gluttony Alolan Muk and other berry reliant Pokemon.
Limber is a option if you want keep that very good speed.

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Kanto Persian

Role: Support
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Technician
Item: Life orb
Ev's in: Speed and attack

Moves:
Fake out
U-turn
Taunt
Screech

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Strategy: Use hit and run strategy with fake out and u-turn, repeating the process often. However use Taunt and screech to support your other pokémons. make the most of persian's speed to taunt your foe before he start his setup, if your oponnet has alot of defense, use screech and then u-turn to switch places with a pokémon in your party that will make the most of the taunt and/or screech you has just used.

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