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I spent a long time to breed a cleffa with 0 IVs in attack and perfect IVs in the others. I accidentally gave it a modest nature instead of the bold nature I was going for. While modest isn't necessarily bad, I wanted:

Clefable@Kee berry
Ability: Magic guard
252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp.def
Bold nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Minimise
- Calm Mind
- Moonlight
- Moonblast

This one was actually a setup sweeper.

But that I've got modest, is this set now not good? Should I try something else such as Cosmic Power, Minimise, Moonlight, Stored Power? Please tell me if the first set is still usable, or should I opt for the second. If the second is better, please give a good moveset.
Thanks in advance.

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I think you should use Tapu Fini instead of Clefable. Clefable isn't that good in BSS.
Well yeah, but I have a naganadel on my team, I don't want to weaken its devastating drake. Also, I want a setup sweeper.
Mawile is a better setup sweeper.
I use a Mawile in the same team. But it doesn't have Minimise, and doesn't usually make your opponents rage quit.
In that case, you should probably use a minimize Chandelure to increase your diversity.

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Since this is BSS, here goes:
Softboiled is illegal with Unaware but it can be used with Magic Guard. It's generally better due to more PP and consistent healing, compared to Moonlight's 8 PP and reduced healing in sand, rain, or hail.

Here's a moveset I would recommend:

Clefable @ Leftovers
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 104 Def / 152 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Calm Mind
- Soft-Boiled
- Flamethrower / Thunder Wave / Toxic / Minimize

This set maximises Clefable's bulk against numerous threats in the tier while retaining its nature. It has enough defense to take strong hits. For example:

252 Atk Choice Band Hoopa-Unbound Hyperspace Fury vs. 252 HP / 104+ Def Clefable: 148-174 (37.5 - 44.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Alakazam-Mega Psychic vs. 252 HP / 152 SpD Clefable: 171-202 (43.4 - 51.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 152 SpD Clefable: 142-168 (36 - 42.6%) -- 94.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Without investment, after a Calm Mind it threatens numerous Pokemon. Flamethrower is for Steel types that easily wall the set, while your choice of status can cripple threats that get free switches in, such as Heatran. Minimize is a good move in general in BSS and allows Clefable to become nigh unhittable, but is hard to fit on another slot due to how mandatory Calm Mind, Moonblast, and Softboiled are, and Clefable still has to deal with Steel types totally walling it.

This set mostly loses to specially bulky Pokemon, Pokemon with access to moves that ignore Minimize boosts, Poison types, Fire types, and especially Heatran, who laughs off Moonblast and packs an immunity to Flamethrower, though it hates Thunder Wave. If you're running Thunder Wave, Steel types can beat Clefable easily.

I hope I've helped!

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Those are all good points. I was asking for battle spot singles though. You must have spent a lot of time writing this, sorry.
Oh, this is for BSS, my apologies. Let me go edit my answer real quick.
I don't mean to trouble you, but as I stated in the question, I was going for the bold nature you recommend, but got modest. Will these sets work for a modest nature too?
Bold is generally preferred for the bulk, if you're going Modest you might want to funnel some of those EVs into Special Attack or just max it out