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A season has already passed in VGC 2021 format, and I feel like players have had enough time exploring the format. Thus, I feel like asking this question is safe now.

Do people have any eccentric, interesting or conventional ways to counter the metagame right now? I am mainly focusing on doubles format, but singles can be included too, just make sure you include the format you are talking about.

e.g.
Rotom-H has great typing against Metagross and Glastrier, serving as a decent check in both doubles and singles after setting up Nasty Plot which can score K.Os really quickly.

Looking forward to the responses!

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I'd like to help, but what is the new meta in VGC 2021? I could figure it out by looking at it.

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Ok, I don’t have much competitive experience, but I can do a crapload of research. So, yeah. I am going to be looking at the top ten most commonly used doubles Pokemon. This is via pikalytics btw.

Incineroar.
Based off of the smogon doubles moveset, this poke seems to do well as an intimidate pivot. Common Pokemon that have a good type advantage against it are, tapu fini, urshifu, landorus therian and rapid strike urshifu. Out of these, tapu fini is mostly used as a wall.

Let's Look at the sets.

Urshifu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Wicked Blow
-Close Combat
-Sucker Punch
-Protect

-1 252 Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 244 HP / 84 Def Incineroar: 134-162 (66.6 - 80.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Urshifu is a good all around sweeper, and is a powerful Pokemon. It has the added benefit of avoiding protect.

Landorus Therian @ Assault Vest
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Rock Slide
-U-turn

-1 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 236 HP / 4 Def Incineroar: 110-132 (55 - 66%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Counting the Intimidate
With a swords dance,
+1 252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 236 HP / 4 Def Incineroar: 246-290 (123 - 145%) -- guaranteed OHKO. This is including the Intimidate.

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Aqua Jet
- U-turn

-1 252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 236 HP / 4 Def Incineroar on a critical hit: 222-270 (111 - 135%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The good thing is you don’t have to use close combat, thus letting you keep in rapid strike urshifu.

Ok, so the next poke is Tapu Fini.
Tapu Fini is usually a wall. Let's see some common counters. Rilaboom, Regieleki and Zapdos.

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave
- Hurricane
- Protect

248+ SpA Zapdos Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Tapu Fini: 114-134 (64.4 - 75.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Rillaboom @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Grassy Surge
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 60 SpD / 140 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Grassy Glide
- Knock Off
- U-turn

252+ Atk Choice Band Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 252 HP / 60 Def Tapu Fini: 162-192 (91.5 - 108.4%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

Regieleki @ Choice Specs
Ability: Transistor
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
-Light Screen
-Reflect
-Electroweb
-Volt Switch

252 SpA Choice Specs Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 76+ SpD Tapu Fini: 198-234 (111.8 - 132.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Next, Glastrier. It seems to be a sweeper.

Urshifu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Wicked Blow
-Close Combat
-Sucker Punch
-Protect

252 Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Glastrier: 168-198 (81.1 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Aqua Jet
- U-turn

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Glastrier: 168-198 (81.1 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Heatran @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 228 HP / 252 SpAtk / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
-Earth Power
-Flash Cannon
-Heatwave
-Protect

252+ SpA Heatran Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Glastrier: 122-146 (58.9 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Next, is rilaboom. Rilaboom works as a grassy terrain sweeper.

Glastrier @ Assault vest
Ability: Chilling Neigh
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
-High Horsepower
-Close Combat
-Icicle Crash
-Heavy Slam

252+ Atk Glastrier Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Rillaboom: 188-224 (90.8 - 108.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave
- Hurricane
- Protect

252 SpA Zapdos Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Rillaboom: 242-288 (116.9 - 139.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Heatran @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 228 HP / 252 SpAtk / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
-Earth Power
-Flash Cannon
-Heatwave
-Protect

Next, is Regieleki. It is used with electroweb as speed control, and it also carries screens, however it can do some serious damage with Transistor + 252 SpAtk + Timid nature.

Landorus Therian @ Assault Vest
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Rock Slide
-U-turn

252+ Atk Landorus-Therian Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Regieleki: 260-308 (167.7 - 198.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Swords Dance
-Protect

252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Regieleki: 218-260 (140.6 - 167.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Mamoswine @ Focus Sash
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
-Icicle Crash
-Ice Shard
-Protect
-High Horsepower

252 Atk Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Regieleki: 218-260 (140.6 - 167.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Next, is Urshifu. It’s a sweeper.

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Aqua Jet
- U-turn

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Urshifu: 206-246 (117.7 - 140.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave
- Hurricane
- Protect

252 SpA Life Orb Zapdos Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Urshifu: 351-416 (200.5 - 237.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Next is Porygon 2. It’s a TR setter and sweeper.

Urshifu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Wicked Blow
-Close Combat
-Sucker Punch
-Protect

252 Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 244 HP / 92 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 134-162 (70.1 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Aqua Jet
- U-turn

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat vs. 244 HP / 92 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 134-162 (70.1 - 84.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Zapdos (Galar) @ safety goggles
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
-Brave Bird
-Close Combat
-Stomping Tantrum
-Taunt
252 Atk Zapdos-Galar Thunderous Kick vs. 244 HP / 92 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 102-120 (53.4 - 62.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Next, is Landorus Therian. Definitely a sweeper.

Glastrier @ Assault vest
Ability: Chilling Neigh
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
-High Horsepower
-Close Combat
-Icicle Crash
-Heavy Slam

-1 252+ Atk Glastrier Icicle Crash vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 252-300 (152.7 - 181.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Rotom Wash @ Sitrus berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 204 HP / 92 SpAtk / 112 Def / 20 SpDef / 80 Spe
Modest Nature
-Hydro Pump
-Nasty Plot
-Thunderbolt
-Protect

92 SpA Rotom-Wash Hydro Pump vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-Therian: 170-204 (103 - 123.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Dracovish @ Choice Band
Ability: Strong Jaw
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
-Fishious Rend
-Psychic Fangs
-Rock Slide
-Crunch

-1 252 Atk Strong Jaw Dracovish Fishious Rend (85 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 122-146 (73.9 - 88.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Next is Grimmsnarl. Definitely used as a screener.

Heatran @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 228 HP / 252 SpAtk / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
-Earth Power
-Flash Cannon
-Heatwave
-Protect

252+ SpA Heatran Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Grimmsnarl: 188-224 (93 - 110.8%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

Metagross @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Adamant Nature
-Iron Head
-Protect
-Stomping Tantrum

252 Atk Life Orb Metagross Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Grimmsnarl: 260-307 (128.7 - 151.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Next is Amoongus. It is used as a wall, especially a special wall.

Glastrier @ Assault vest
Ability: Chilling Neigh
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
-High Horsepower
-Close Combat
-Icicle Crash
-Heavy Slam

252+ Atk Glastrier Icicle Crash vs. 236 HP / 76 Def Amoonguss: 206-246 (94 - 112.3%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave
- Hurricane
- Protect
252 SpA Life Orb Zapdos Hurricane vs. 236 HP / 196+ SpD Amoonguss: 211-250 (96.3 - 114.1%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

Heatran @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 228 HP / 252 SpAtk / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
-Earth Power
-Flash Cannon
-Heatwave
-Protect

252+ SpA Heatran Heat Wave vs. 236 HP / 196+ SpD Amoonguss: 116-140 (52.9 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Next, Let's Go to Kartana.

Kartana is a pure offensive sweeper. Some common counters are: Urshifu, Urshifu Rapid and Cinderace.

Here are some sets and calculations.

Cinderace @ Life Orb
Level: 50
Ability: Libero
EVs: 252 Atk/4 SpD252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Pyro Ball
- Bounce
- High Jump Kick
- Iron Head

252 Atk Life Orb Libero Cinderace High Jump Kick vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 213-252 (157.7 - 186.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO. Even a non super effective hit does big damage.
252 Atk Life Orb Cinderace Pyro Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 395-468 (292.5 - 346.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Look at Pyro ball.

Urshifu @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Jolly Nature
-Wicked Blow
-Close Combat
-Sucker Punch
-Protect

252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kartana on a critical hit: 123-145 (91.1 - 107.4%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
Not super effective and still a very good move. Close combat is amazing on it.
252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 246-290 (182.2 - 214.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Aqua Jet
- U-turn

252 Atk Choice Band Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Kartana: 246-290 (182.2 - 214.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

Next is Whimsicott. It is a support mon with tailwind. Honestly, most Pokemon can OHKO it, but still. Glastrier, Zapdos and Heatran.

Heatran @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 228 HP / 252 SpAtk / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
-Earth Power
-Flash Cannon
-Heatwave
-Protect

Zapdos @ Life Orb
Ability: Static
EVs: 4 HP / 4 Def / 248 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Heat Wave
- Hurricane
- Protect

Glastrier @ Assault vest
Ability: Chilling Neigh
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
-High Horsepower
-Close Combat
-Icicle Crash
-Heavy Slam

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I can add more if you want. I was working on this in a google doc for a month lol.