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Hey guys, I want to compete in the Battle Tree. I planned to use Madam Chomps the Mega Salamence and Climber the Arcanine holding the Life Orb. All I need now is a Water type. So, what Pokemon should I use, and what Nature, EVs, and moves are there for them?

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I wouldn’t choose M-Swampert for this team, since its only really viable as a rain sweeper. Your team doesn’t synergize with rain (Arcanine) so there’s honestly no point in using it. Plus, you already have Mega Salamence.


The problem with Greninja is I literally can’t tell if Salamence and Arcanine are running physical or special sets. If you provided that info I could 1. suggest a different Pokemon for this slot 2. keep what I’m about to say.

If this is Sun or Moon, great. You can get the demo to get a Battle Bond Greninja. If you are playing USUM, you should be looking for a Protean Greninja. Both abilities are quite good (and much better than Torrent).

As for nature, try to get Timid (-Attack, +Speed).

EVs should be 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, and you can throw the extra 4 into defense or special defense, it doesn’t matter much.

For moves, try Surf/Hydro Pump for STAB (Surf
for accuracy, Hydro Pump for power), Dark Pulse for STAB (by the way, I’m basing STAB off of Battle Bond, if it has Protean everything will be STAB), Ice Beam/Extrasensory for coverage, and then the last slot could be Water Shuriken (priority)/U-Turn (pivoting)/Grass Knot (coverage).

Oh, and for and item, try a Choice Scarf/Specs for extra power/speed (works well with U-Turn as well).


So, in conclusion, I’d go with Greninja.

Hope this helps! :)

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forgot the item im about to edit it lol
Remove Hydro Pump as a alternative to Surf.
Hydro Pump is inaccurate.
Hydro Pump is a viable move on Greninja because it’s powerful. I don’t know where you got the information that Hydro Pump isn’t a good alternative to Surf. Also I was intending it to be the other way around (Surf as an accurate option instead of Hydro Pump).

Thank you for your input that I don’t think I needed.
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Protean Greninja is probably the best since it gets STAB for all of it's coverage moves and changing type.

Mega Swampert is only good as a rain sweeper, wasting a turn by using Rain Dance is unviable. Unless you have someone with Drizzle and at least a Damp Rock.

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf / Water Shuriken
- Extrasensory
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam

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> So, what Pokemon should I use, and what nature, EVs, and moves is there for them?

You didn’t answer most of the question lol