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Going to leave this one to Pokemaster. This is an interesting issue, since the COPPA is only a US law and doesn't apply to this British site if the users in question are not within American jurisdiction. It's just that we can't actually prove that consistently, which means an expensive lawsuit could be around the corner at any point -- though that would be very unlucky.
Beyond the law I see no issue doing it that way we always have -- it's just that Pokemaster can't exactly ignore the law. By rights, our policy should indeed be to apply a blanket ban to under 13s, like most other sites do to remain safe. It's just a question of whether we as a Pokemon site need to bother. The answer is technically yes... but practically no.
Wait? da site is British? And how is it a 13+ site if all you need is a e-mail.username and password?
It is not a 13+ site right now, at least not formally. Basically I'm saying that legally, it probably should be -- but in an ideal world, we wouldn't be forced into any restriction. A checkbox or some other measure would be added to the signup page if there was a change made.
And yes, Pokemaster is from England. But that has nothing to do with the site's audience.
Why did you remove "coppa" tag? it isn't useless, HT.
I hope it isn't 13+. Others I can't stay ):
Horray i won't get kicked of the site!! Yaaayyyy
Well I never expliciotly stated my age so I can just pretend I'm 99 and bypass the age check
What difference does it make when kids lie about their ages?
This is still very much subject to change, mind.
And if people lie, then I guess nothing happens because we can’t confirm anything.
*Yawn* while the law might be the law & people might know what age some of us are around, The internet is a great place to trick people by saying I just had a birthday my profiles a typo I'm 21 not 12!
 But I'm on Fizz's side a blanket rule would benifit the site. So this doesn't need to start a Gofundme lol.

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(Just wanna throw it out there that, even though I post this as an answer, Pokemaster absolutely has final say on this! I'm simply taking the time to educate those who read so we're all on the same page.)

The "age restrictions" of COPPA and related privacy protection acts and bills are a matter of liability more than anything else. It's also dependent on the disclosure of what information is being collected and stored on servers, if any. In Pokemon Database's case and using COPPA as the standard, due to the technical content of the website it could be debated whether or not this is a website directed at children, and since we do not collect any personal information, the website is under no obligation to age-screen users, since we discourage users from identifying themselves in the first place and keep no record of such details in the signup process.

There is still some degree of change to the signup process that should probably take place to comply with any potential privacy and child protection laws though, just to be absolutely safe: relating to the example, a checkbox added to the signup process signifying "I am over the age of 13" is basically a waiver the user agrees to so that they can't blame the website for any criminal activity dependent on a user being under that age. The user knowingly agreed to it, so they proceed at their own risk, even if they are under 13; it isn't "our fault", pretty much.

An example of how this typically gets handled is similar to how Facebook and Twitter handles privacy! Emails are sent out saying an update's been made to the terms and conditions (in this case, that terms and conditions have been newly implemented to comply with such-and-such laws). Before being able to log in again, every current and future user must view the long contract, click the "I accept" button way at the bottom, then submit.

What that means is all users who submit are agreeing that Pokemon Database holds next to no responsibility for any user's safety and privacy, since we ask for no personal information and every active user claims to be over 13. Since we have no record of information that could ever prove that a specific user isn't over 13, we have no liability for their status as a child under such an age.

Some of this varies country-to-country, and any complications authorities have with a website are resolved either within the country the website's hosting is domestic to, or the country the owner of the website is domestic to.

Source: Certifications in Business Administration, schooling in Business Law, and - of course - I work at an internet service provider!

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Awesome, this is a better explanation than mine. Only thing is that I feel we may still fit the ‘personal information’ parameter since we probably do store children’s email addresses (lazy google search says this counts). But again that is all fixed by adding a checkbox as you mention.
The ruling on email addresses is messy, but you're right in that not every email address is exempt. An email address alone is not a name, home address, gender or an age, but a lot of people (including myself, honestly) put their name, age or birth year into the prefix of their email address...which then makes it far more personal. :P
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