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If you have a good competitive moveset for Frosmoth, post an answer below and upvote the best ones. Movesets for any of its pre-evolutions can also be shared on this thread.

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Frosmoth @ Occa Berry
Ability: Ice Scales
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Ice Beam
- Hurricane / Weather Ball / Giga Drain

This set appreciates rain, but it's not mandatory. In rain, after a Quiver Dance, Ice Scales, and Occa Berry, Frosmoth can easily take fire moves. It can also use Weather Ball to take out fire types, or 100% accurate Hurricanes in rain, or Giga Drain if you're not using rain.

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Definitely the best set for a sweeper Frosmoth. Weather Ball in Rain with this hits like a truck and the coverage is so nice.
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Frosmoth @ Leftovers
Ability: Ice Scales
Evs: 252 Def / 4 HP / 252 Sp. Def
Bold Nature
- Icy Wind
- Struggle Bug
- Wide Guard
- Helping Hand/Tailwind/Feather Dance/Giga Drain
Doubles tank/support Frosmoth! It has been doing wonders for me. It anihilates threats like Torkoal and Heat Wave Zard, Tyranitar´s Rock Slide, etc, despite being able to tank very well overall. you have access to moves that cripple Sp Atk and Speed of both enemies, apart of Feather Dance in case you feel like you really need to nulify a certain threat. It still 2 hit KOs Dragapults with icy wind without Sp Atk investments and can survive a flamethrower from it. It gets access to Tailwind to settup for a sweeper and Helping Hand to empower, all of these moves are great depending on the situation. I run mine usually with a Gmax Lapras that covers Rock and Fire types with Max Geyser and sets Rain and Aurora Veil.
If you want the Lapras set too here ya go:
Ability: Hydration Item: Light Clay
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Sp Atk
Modest Nature
- Rest
- Freeze-Dry
- Surf
- Thunder
Rest because Lapras is still pretty tanky and if you set Rain with Max Geyser, your ability Hydration will cure it from the sleep, then you´ll have thunder for coverage, surf for Stab since Frosmoth can tank it well or just protect itself with wide guard and Freeze-Dry to deal with water types like Gastrodon and Ice Stab.

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3 votes

This is a little different from the other Frosmoth sets.
Gen 8 PU

Frosmoth @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Ice Scales
EVs: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 Spe
Calm Nature
- Ice Beam
- U-turn / Quiver Dance
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

This set is intended to check most of the special wallbreakers and sweepers in the tier. Ice Beam is STAB. U-Turn is for pivoting. Rest is for healing. Sleep Talk is so you won't be vulnerable while you're asleep. Quiver Dance can be used over U-Turn if you want to setup and boost your stats. 248 HP is to help with your bulk. 96 Speed EVs allow you to outspeed max speed Modest Alolan Exeggutor. The rest of the EVs go to special defense.

Teammates

You'll definitely want Pokémon who can check fire and rock types, so Pokémon such as Toxicroak and Jellicent are greatly appreciated. Pokémon who can't take special hits that well can appreciate Frosmoth being able to take those hits for them. Pokemon such as Regirock, Basculin, Centiskorch, etc can help Frosmoth as they can check Pokémon such as Aggron and Archeops, who check ice types like Frosmoth.

Defensive Calcs

252 SpA Heliolisk Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 54-64 (15.7 - 18.6%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (54, 54, 55, 56, 57, 57, 58, 59, 59, 60, 60, 61, 62, 63, 63, 64)


+2 252 SpA Ribombee Moonblast vs. +2 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 52-62 (15.1 - 18%) -- possible 6HKO
Possible damage amounts: (52, 53, 54, 54, 54, 55, 56, 57, 57, 58, 58, 59, 60, 60, 61, 62)


+2 252 SpA Life Orb Toxicroak Focus Blast vs. +2 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 81-96 (23.6 - 27.9%) -- 86.1% chance to 4HKO
Possible damage amounts: (81, 82, 83, 84, 84, 86, 86, 88, 88, 90, 90, 92, 92, 94, 94, 96)


+2 252 SpA Life Orb Toxicroak Sludge Wave vs. +2 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 64-76 (18.6 - 22.1%) -- possible 5HKO
Possible damage amounts: (64, 65, 65, 66, 67, 68, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76)


252 SpA Choice Specs Whimsicott Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 164+ SpD Ice Scales Frosmoth: 107-126 (31.1 - 36.7%) -- 70.3% chance to 3HKO
Possible damage amounts: (107, 108, 109, 110, 112, 113, 114, 115, 117, 118, 119, 120, 122, 123, 124, 126)

Enjoy!

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Lamp (Frosmoth) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Ice Scales
Happiness: 160
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Air Slash / Giga Drain
- Ice Beam

I don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. No, I did not copy this from Smogon.

...ok, I almost did, but I am opting to run Air Slash here instead of Hurricane because better accuracy, a 30% flinch chance, and I plan to have help from Quiver Dance already anyway. Giga Drain is also available to help fend off Rock types, should they give you an issue.

Focus Sash is also an acceptable item option if you're planning on using this early, but given that it has a 4x susceptability to Stealth Rock, I think Smogon is actually smart for recommending these new boots here.

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2 votes

Doubles Set

Frosmoth @ Coba Berry
Ability: Ice Scales
Level: 50
EVs: 36 HP / 252 Def / 220 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Wide Guard
- Bug Buzz
- Ice Beam
- Struggle Bug

Maybe a niche check to the common Rillaboom seen in VGC. Wide Guard to protect from Rock Slide and other spread moves. Bug Buzz and Ice Beam for STAB. Struggle Bug for spread damage and special attack lowering.

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Frosmoth @Never Melt Ice

Ability: Ice Scales
Nature: Timid
EVS: SpA 252, Speed 252, Sp.Def 4 or HP 4

Moveset

-Quiver Dance
-Bug Buzz
-Ice Beam
-Dazzling Gleam

Frosmoth has a lot of weaknesses, but having quiver dance is always a must with this mon. I was thinking possible Blizzard but only if you plan to run this on a snow weather team. But ice beam is OP anyways so why not?

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Frosmoth @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Ice Scales
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Tera Blast
- Ice Beam
- Giga Drain / Energy Ball

Set explanation:
Terastalizing will probably make this mon a lot more viable then it has been. HDB is mandatory so you don't lose HP from hazards like Stealth Rock. Tera Water makes you resist Fire and removes your weakness to Rock. Quiver Dance is what makes this thing viable, boosting your speed, special attack, and special defense. Tera Blast becomes Water, hitting things like Garganacl, non Water Absorb Clodsire, Tyrabitar, Skeledirge, and Ting-Lu. Skeledirge gets obliterated with no SpD investment and no boost: 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skeledirge: 432-512 (104.8 - 124.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO. Clodsire, even with Unaware is scared of this thing: 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 248-292 (53.4 - 62.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. Tanky minecraft guy gets destroyed. +1 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Garganacl: 392-464 (97 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO. Sanditar gets destroyed too: 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 248-292 (61.3 - 72.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery. For Ting Lu, I don't know how to get the calc to take Tablets of Ruin into account, but judging by what it can do to freaking Clodsire, even with Tablets of Ruin it would be around a 2HKO. Ice Beam is STAB and hits a lot of things, there isn't much explaining to do. Giga Drain gives you healing, which allows to to get a benefit from picking off weakened mons and just stay alive longer. However, Energy Ball can be used to 2HKO Dondozo, which otherwise is a big wall to this, even with Giga Drain. In order to kill with Drain, you need hazards or a 30.5 chance for a 2HKO. 252 SpA Frosmoth Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Unaware Dondozo: 226-268 (44.8 - 53.1%) -- 30.5% chance to 2HKO VS 252 SpA Frosmoth Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Unaware Dondozo: 272-320 (53.9 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO.

Counters:
Iron Hands tanks everything you can throw at it with AV and kills with Thunder Punch. You barely do anything to it even with 1+ boost. To make matters worse, Fake Out can chip you. +1 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Iron Hands: 234-276 (45.7 - 53.9%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO.
Even if it is not running a bully set, Hands is just bulky in general and won't be 1 shot without chip damage. +1 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Tera Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Iron Hands: 350-412 (68.3 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO.
Priority users destroy this thing. Meowscarada, Kingambit, Dragonite, Breloom, Ceruledge, Lokix, and Scizor when non Tera will do a lot of damage to you with their respective priority, if not 1 shotting.
Fast mons or scared mons can outspeed and kill. Well, it is a slow mon even with +1 Speed, not super surprising.
Toxapex walls you hard. No other thing needs to be said. +1 252 SpA Tera Water Frosmoth Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Toxapex: 106-125 (34.8 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO. This isn't Lefties SpD Pex, this is 4 EVs in SpD Pex.

Conclusion: This thing will probably find a home in a lower tier, but with Terastalizing, it will be much better than it has been. Also why did I do this analysis on a freaking moth lol

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Snomrade (Frosmoth) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Ice Scales
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
IVs: 0 Atk
- Quiver Dance
- Ice Beam / Blizzard
- Air Slash / Hurricane
- Giga Drain

This set works well when switching in on a special attacker. Quiver Dance once or twice and then you're good to go. Just watch out for Steel types or other special walls!
Ice beam/Blizzard for STAB coverage, choose accuracy or power.
Air Slash/Hurricane for coverage and countering Fighting or Fire types. Again choose accuracy+flinch or power+confusion.
Giga Drain for life steal and countering Rock types.

I like using Ice STAB over Bug Buzz, but if you need Dark and Psychic counters, then use Bug Buzz instead of Ice STAB or Giga Drain.

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Frosmoth @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Ice Scales
Nature: Modest
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 SpD
- Bug Buzz
- Ice Beam
- Quiver Dance
- Giga Drain

Bug Buzz and Ice Beam are STAB. Quiver Dance to boost its stats. Giga Drain for Rock types.

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No, just no. Don't run weakness policy, you NEED heavy duty boots or Stealth Rock wil obliterate you. Feather dance is pointless, run air slash/hurricane.
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Frosmoth @ Charti Berry/Occa Berry
Ability: Ice Scales
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bug Buzz/Struggle Bug
- Quiver Dance
- Giga Drain/Dazzling Gleam/Air Slash
- Ice Beam/U-turn
Bug Buzz is a fairly powerful bug type move that has a chance of lowering the oppoment's Special Defense while Struggle Bug is better in double battles as it hits adjacent foes and also lowers the special Attack of a foe, Quiver Dance is a good setup to raise it's Specials and Speed, Giga Drain covers rock and also recovers it's health, Dazzling Gleam hits both targets in double battles which is useful, Air Slash have a chance to Flinch, which gives a free turn, Ice Beam have a chance to Freeze and has STAB, U-turn is a nice move although Frostmoth has terrible Attack, but since U-turn does not have decreased priority, it would be useful.
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LC Snom luck set
Nom (Snom) (F) @ Bright Powder/Occa Berry/Charti Berry/Eviolite
Ability: Ice Scales
Level: 5
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 236 Def / 76 SpA / 196 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Bug Buzz
- Icy Wind
- Attract
- Protect
Bright Powder for a 10% chance for 100% accuracy moves to miss like Flamethrower or Fire Lash, Ice Scales to make Snom's Special Defense less terrible, Bug Buzz being the best move Snom can learn as Snom's Attack is also terrible, Icy Wind lowers the oppoment's speed, which can be useful sometimes, Protect against nasty Throat Choppers to stall up, and Attract because most Pokemon will be male, so this Snom is a female to get lucky and the target will get infatuated.

I've hoped I've helped!

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Frosmoth @ Life Orb
Ability: Ice Scales
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe
Quiet Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Ice Beam
- U-Turn
- Hurricane / Giga Drain / Dazzling Gleam / Calm Mind / Air Slash

A Trick Room set. Life Orb makes your attacks do more damage. Ice Scales allows it to switch into special attacks, assuming they aren't too powerful. The EVs maximize damage, and focus in defense. The IVs are so it outspeeds things in Trick Room. Quiet Nature maximizes attack power while lowering speed, which is useful to outspeed things in Trick Room. Bug Buzz is STAB. Ice Beam is STAB. Blizzard is stronger STAB, but has shaky accuracy. U-Turn allows it to pivot out of bad matchups. The last slot is coverage. Giga Drain can heal, and is for rock types. Hurricane does a lot of damage, but has shaky accuracy. Dazzling Gleam is coverage. Air Slash is more accurate flying coverage. Calm Mind can be used to set up and sweep.

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Why 0 Atk IVs if U-Turn is used?
U-Turn is normally used for momentum and not damage. You don't really want to use U-Turn for damage when you have Bug Buzz.
That makes sense, but what’s the point of wasting 31 IVs that could’ve done at least some chip damage on switch? U-turn may not be focused on damage, but I don’t see a downside to the added damage.
Foul Play, confusion damage etc are reduced.