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Introduction

Hello and Merry Christmas (for those of you who celebrate)! Since many of you are just getting off on Christmas break, it seems like the perfect time to start our next tournament. This is Gligurr's Scrabble Tourney, and I'm going to be your host.
Keep in mind that I will be basing these dates off of my timezone in the Americas, so there might be some delays for some of you.

Rules

  • Once signups are over, you will be given 6 letters generated by this balanced random letter generator. For every letter you get, you can choose any Pokémon that starts with that letter for your team. The random letter generator linked was designed for this tournament to give balanced team point sums. I encourage you to check it out and get a feel for it.
  • For every kill, depending on the letter of your Pokémon, you get points. The points are based off of the actual scrabble game (see here). For example, if you're using a Machamp and you knock out a Pokémon, since M is worth 3 points in scrabble, you will get 3 points. For indirect KOs, points will be determined either by what Pokémon you currently have out, or had out last (see this example battle for specifics).
  • Standard OU bans.
  • Round Robin; you will have a month to battle every other participant. I would recommend spending as much time as possible in the DB Showdown! server, since many other participants probably will as well. Whoever has the most points at the end wins.
  • No duplicate letters on a team.
  • Zygarde 50% is banned.
  • New rule: players who are dissatisfied with their set of letters can ask for one reroll. If you ask, you cannot use your previous set of letters, and you only get one reroll, so think carefully before asking.
  • To be played in Smogon’s OU format

IMPORTANT EDIT: instead of multiple rounds, players will be given a month to battle all opponents

Basic rules that will be forever reiterated:

  • Battles are to be held in the DB Showdown! server
  • Smogon clauses apply
  • Spectators cannot influence players’ decisions; participants cannot accept outside help
  • You don’t have to use the same team throughout the tournament (but you will have to use the same letters)
  • SAVE YOUR REPLAYS!

How to participate

If you wish to sign up for the Scrabble Tourney, please leave an answer down below. Include your Pokémon Showdown! username, timezone, and if you want, your votes for the optional rules. For example:

KRLW890
UTC-6.00

No duplicates
Ban Zygarde

Signing up means committing to playing; you are only given a month to build your team and battle your opponents. Failing to battle a player will not only put you at a disadvantage, but also the other participant. As such, players who ignore battle requests from others in this tournament may be kicked. If both players seem to have made ample effort, but still can’t battle, extensions can be made.
In the event that a player is kicked from the tournament, any points gained from battles with that player will be revoked.

Participants will receive their letters on Sunday, December 30th. When you are ready, organize battles with your opponents, preferably by posting on their wall, commenting on their answer, or just hanging out in the Showdown! server. Be sure to save battle replays.

Gligurr's Scrabble Tournament

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Your letters are posted on your answer. They are X O J R L I
Am I allowed to use Ubers?
No, it’s an OU tournament
Can we battle the same person multiple times? I barely see anyone on the DB Showdown server, and I keep changing my team, so is it okay?
You can battle them for fun as many times as you want, but for rematches to count in this tournament, both players need to agree in advance to it, preferably with each player leaving a confirmation note at the beginning of the battle.

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The tournament is now over! Thanks to everyone who battled, here are the top scorers:

In first place is sumwun, with 206 points.
Second place is X-Scizor, with 180 points.
KRLW890 is in 3rd place with 161 points.
Octazooka came in 4th with 130 points.
Stakatacool came in 5th with 125 points.
EdDaBoss came in 6th with 110 points.
[MEGA]StellarLucario came in 7th with 95 points.
SeeYaLater! came in 8th place with 61 points.

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GGs everyone!
Pretty much all I did was keep Zapdos in battle as often as possible. If you got a Z and didn't use Zapdos, then you can only blame yourself for the loss.
Ayy, for my second time ever playing comp. battling I did not do bad!
Look at ForretressExplosion about me...
"I am on DB Showdown everyday at 5:00 PM to 9:00 PM. Plz battle meh."
I think I did well. :P
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The tournament has begun! You will have until Sunday, January 27th to build your team and battle all other participants. There will be no second round; whoever has the most points by the due date wins the tournament. Keep in mind that you get points even if you lose the match.
It has become apparent that more time is needed for players to get their battles in. As such the deadline has been extended another week, until Sunday, February 3rd. Hopefully this will be enough time for everyone to finish up, but if necessary, less active players may need to be disqualified. Depending on how the upcoming week goes, I might be willing to extend it for another week after this. I highly recommend spending as much time as you can on the Database's Showdown! server and possibly joining our Discord server if you haven't already (a lot of us are active there).
Before announcing the winner, I'm going to do a final recount of everyone's points, which could take a day or two. Done counting, here are the final scores!


Battles and points will be recorded here:

KRLW890: 161 points
Battles: Octazooka, SeeYaLater!, X-Scizor, EdDaBoss, Stakatacool, sumwun, [MEGA]StellarLucario

SeeYaLater!: 61 points
Battles: KRLW890, X-Scizor, EdDaBoss, Octazooka, Stakatacool, sumwun, [MEGA]StellarLucario

EdDaBoss: 110 points
Battles: SeeYaLater!, KRLW890, Octazooka, Stakatacool, sumwun, X-Scizor, [MEGA]StellarLucario

X-Scizor: 180 points
Battles: Stakatacool, KRLW890, SeeYaLater!, Octazooka, EdDaBoss, sumwun, [MEGA]StellarLucario

Stakatacool: 125 points
Battles: X-Scizor, SeeYaLater!, KRLW890, EdDaBoss, sumwun, [MEGA]StellarLucario, Octazooka

Octazooka: 130 points
Battles: KRLW890, SeeYaLater!, sumwun, EdDaBoss, Stakatacool, X-Scizor, [MEGA]StellarLucario

sumwun: 206 points
Battles: Octazooka, Stakatacool, SeeYaLater!, EdDaBoss, KRLW890, X-Scizor, [MEGA]StellarLucario

[MEGA]StellarLucario: 95 points
Battles: Stakatacool,KRLW890, EdDaBoss, X-Scizor, SeeYaLater!, Octazooka, sumwun

Jofly and Meta Ridley have been disqualified by request. ForretressExplosion has been disqualified due to inactivity.

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Good luck Everyone!
If a lot of people haven't battled everyone by the deadline, can you extend it?
Yes, extensions can be made.
KRLW!! You need to remove points for our first match before I rerolled. I don't know what it was but I should be on zero, because we haven't battled yet. (I rerolled)
That’s right, I said I would rematch you. For anyone else watching this, you don’t have to accept rematches if a player rerolls after you battle them. Rematches will only override the original match if both players agree in advance to it.
Me vs. EdDaBoss:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5264
Why did I lose all my battles lol. I guess I'm a card that upgrades everyone while you don't have enough points lol.
You're losing all your battles because you can't seem to remember how STAB or the type chart works.
@SYL if you feel like you suck at this, watch me vs KRLW890.
What does it mean to reroll?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5268 I believe this gives 17 to me and 0 to Octazooka.
@Octazooka Rerolling means that you get a new set of 6 letters to use. The new roll is still completely random, overrides your old letters (so you can’t use them afterwards) and can only be done once per player, so it’s best only to ask for a reroll if you’re having a lot of trouble with your first set of letters.
Half of my team is worth 1 point. Should I?
Me vs. Stakatacool https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5273
I have no idea how I won this match. And why this one ;(, I wanted to use the "It's a cat-astrophe" at the end.
And also, how much is a Burn kill?
It depends on the Pokémon you had out. Omastar was out, so it’s 1 point.
@KRWL890 when me and SYL battles Yanmega died to stealth rocks but none of my mons were out. How much points was that.
That was based on the Pokémon you last had out, which was Espeon, so 1 point again.
WOW. I was looking at if and then my points hanged by LIEK 35
KRWL890 I know I will lose anyway, and just out of curiosity i want a reroll
My and Octozooka's rematch (because of reroll): https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-4991
Can I point out that the last 4 players are still on 0. Have they battled yet?
Are all the people on DB Showdown! contestants?
Not necessarily? All the people who responded to this thread are contestants. Their Showdown names are included in their answers.
Me vs ForrestressExplose:
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5003
Me get 16 points
@Staka in main chat I said that battle was for me to test out my new team, and it would not count.
This is the battle I am talking about:
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-4991
It seems me and you had different thoughts in the battle...
KRWL890 do you think you could keep Stakas points the same but for me use this battle: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5252 since I thought the one I lost was a for fun battle, even though I stupidly missed he had said in chat earlier that it was going to be a bttle that counted
@everyone who battled ForretressExplosion, his teams didn't use his letters, so the battles are invalid. I told him, so hopefully he should be ready for rematches soon with a valid team.

@Octazooka and Stakatacool, as a general rule of thumb, rematches don't count for the tournament unless both players agree in advance, so if Octazooka didn't agree, then the new battle shouldn't be counted for either of you. I want to hear from Staka before changing it back, though
By the way, me and Stakatacool both battled EdDaBoss. The replays kind of got lost in the comment chain, so you may not have noticed.

Me vs. EdDaBoss: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-4995
Stakatacool vs. EdDaBoss: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-4997
@ X-Scizor no offence, but I already posted our battle. (8 above)
@EdDaBoss, I know. I was just telling KRLW890 because they didn’t edit the post. Also, you posted the wrong replay. The battle you posted wasn’t real, it was just a rematch “for fun”. I even commented it wasn’t the real thing when I stayed into your Zapdos. In the first battle, I remember getting 43 points.

@KRLW890, since there is no way to retrieve the old battle, can me and Ed have a rematch? The battle he posted wasn’t the right one, and I honestly wasn’t trying my hardest.
@KRLW890 (and Octa?), I will attempt to explain:

Yesterday, Octazooka asked me to do a test battle, and I agreed to this. In the battle, I said: "This is a Test battle" after "gl hf" in case if anyone saw it and thought it was for the tour. That battle's replay wasn't saved, because it didn't count. :P

Afterwards, I asked something along the lines of having a rematch battle with Octa since they changed their letters (SYL also asked). I remember Octazooka agreeing, but that could be my brain being an absolute turd. The next battle we had, that I believed counted, was this one: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-4991 , hence why I stated in it "this is a rematch", "I'll post", and saved the replay. Octa had to leave after the battle, and SYL was disappointed that she didn't get to rematch Octa that day. :P

So... was there a miscommunication? I don't know. If you decide not to count the rematch, KRLW, I'll just have to rematch again. No biggie. :P

I guess for now on, whenever I rematch someone (if I do, because of a letter change), I should probably ask the person if it is a rematch at the beginning of the battle and have them answer, so that there aren't any miscommunications. :P
@Staka
I thought both were tests. You want to have another rematch for final?
Okay, so Staka and Octazooka need a rematch, and X-Scizor and EdDaBoss need a rematch. From now on, especially if you're rematching someone, confirm with them in the battle chat whether the battle is for the tournament or not.
@ X-Scizor oops, sorry!
@ KRLW890 yeah ok we'll do it soon
@KRLW890, I had 77 points before battling Ed, not 67.
Me vs Jofly

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5058

Can I point out that we agreed he would forfeit, and me and him were ok with it. Count it as if I killed the Gastrodon. He forfeited to save time because he would have lost on struggle anyway.
You dont have the Staka vs me rematch in STakas battles KRWL
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5106
I think this gives 33 points to Scizor and 0 to me.
sumwun is winning.
I'm going online but I ain't seeing anyone.
@SYL Same
Dang, I fought everyone and sumwun still has more points than me... Looks like I'll be 3rd/4th unless X-S and KRLW get swept in their last few fights... :P

GG everyone! :P
I don’t wanna get disqualified but I just can’t seem to find anyone playing whenever I’m on. It’s like everyone lives in Asia while I live in the US. :(
Me vs. Stellar Lucario
Note, contains one swear word.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/pokemondatabase-gen7ou-5174
Do we still censor ourselves on the Showdown! server too? Didn't know that
Yikes, I'm not doing so hot. I thought I'd be better.
Woah, I’m in first place. (not for long, though)
Okay, so it’s not quite Sunday in my time zone yet, but 11 pm is close enough, so I’m commenting to address those who haven’t completed all their battles yet. As of now, the only battles remaining are ForretressExplosion vs most players and sumwun vs Mega Lucario.
First off: I will still accept battles tomorrow. Not too much else to say here.
Second: ForretressExplosion hasn’t been responding to comments on his answer and still has 6 people to battle. If he can get in 3 battles before Monday, I will be willing to extend the tournament for one more week. Otherwise he will be disqualified and there will be no more extensions. Forretress, please contact us and say when you plan to be on Showdown if you see this.
Finally, sumwun vs Mega Lucario. I’m not 100% sure how to proceed if you don’t battle by the deadline. I think the best way would be to have the battle count as a 0 for both of you, but I feel like that could be argued as being unfair. Feel free to talk to me about it if you have complaints with that. Also, if ForretressExplosion manages to get the extension, it will count for you, too.
How did the rest of you guys get Lucario to fight you? What do you think I should try first if I want to fight him/her/it?
I went on the smogon server during 6-9 in Bristol Time, and pretty much met everyone. I don't know if Lucario will be on today (and I believe those hours past), so IDK what you should do. :P
Seems I am either 4th or 5th place, but beating X-Scizor is still an accomplishment.
I just re-counted Scizor's points, and at least one of us made a mistake.
Against Ed: 22
Against sumwun: 33
Against Lucario: 28
Against Octazooka: 20
Against SYL: 18
Against KRLW: 31
Against Stakataka: 22
Total: 174
Also how did he/she/it get the most points against me and the least points against SYL?
I figured I probably miscounted somewhere. I'm planning to do a recount of everyone's points before announcing the final winner, which means the winner will probably be announced on Tuesday instead of tomorrow (although it might happen late tomorrow depending on how fast I can go and how busy I am).
I personally don't want you to count fast because then you might make another mistake. I don't really care if you announce later. (also make sure Forretress is disqualified before announcing anything)
You re-counted wrong. I got 28 points against Stakatacool. (3 KOs with Keldeo, 1 with Zygarde, 1 with Darmanitan, and one with Uxie) And yes, it is very Interesting how I got 33 points against sumwun and 18 against SYL. I guess I just tried really hard on players I knew were good, and underestimated players who didn’t have that many points. Anyways, GG everyone.
I should have 135 points I believe.

KRWL890: 0
SYL: 21
sumwun: 15
EdDaBoss: 30
Staka: 27
X-Scizor: 21
[MEGA]StellarLucario: 21
Also how come when I click SYL vs Staka, it brings up SYL vs me?
Since ForretressExplosion is disqualified, aren’t the points Stakatacool and Lucario gained from battling them revoked?
Yes, they will be. I'm currently recounting and when I get to them, I'll remove those points.
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And of course I will be joining.

KRLW890
UTC-6

No duplicates
Ban Zygarde

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Good luck!
Ahahaha sound like fun but I’ll pass. I have to play smash and showdown is the worst. I mean come on. Every single mon gets access to luck and very little characters in smash gets luck based moves
My letters are A D F H W K
I battled you.
Since I already commented on everyone else's answer, for personal reference, I might as well say that I still have to fight Meta Ridley and ForretressExplosion.
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I'll join.

TheWhiteTiger727
Timezone: CEST

No dupe letters

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Remember your timezone
Good luck!
Your letters are O U B S Z Y
Thanks Azelfeo!
And yay, I have OU in my name lol.
I battled yoi
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight Jofly, [MEGA]StellarLucario, and ForretressExplosion.
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I'm in!

EdDaBoss
GMT (Greenwich Mean Time)

Can we have duplicate letters please? Just makes it more fun, but you have to use different Pokemon (for instance if I got L and L I have to use two different Pokemon, not two Latios')

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Good luck!
Your letters are W T Y D U X
Your new letters are Z A B D O P
Thanks!
I battled you
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight ForretressExplosion.
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I love losing tournaments!

PikaPaul900
UTC-5 (EST)

I vote no duplicate letters. Also, I think Zygarde 50% should be banned.

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I wanna know  if we can use Zygarde 10 here. Only 50 is being suspect tested
10% is allowed
I battled you
Can we battle anytime in the next 1 to 2 weeks?
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight Jofly, Meta Ridley, and ForretressExplosion.
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Show me what I got! Or don't have! I enjoy getting schooled by people who don't over think team-building. :P

Trippsyouup
UTC -5

I vote no duplicate letters, for the reason that it makes Z less common. Although, I vote to ban Zygarde, so it probably won't matter anyways. :P

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Good luck!
Your letters are M Z L V I T
I battled you
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight Jofly.
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CST is my time zone.
I won’t be able to battle till the 28th.
MoonlitMadness is my showdown.

No duplicate letters

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Good luck!
Thx!!!
Your letters are P Z M E N G
Yes! Z!
Zygarde is banned, though.
Ik. I have another one
Your new letters are X S O C K D
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight Jofly, Meta Ridley, [MEGA]StellarLucario, and ForretressExplosion.
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In to have Ed kick my ass first round like he/she/it did last time

sumwun
UTC -13

yes duplicates

This is round robin so no rounds or matchups. Also you should update this post's title and top bar.

Other than yes duplicates, I have 2 more requests. The mean 6 letter (or Pokemon) team is worth very close to 20 points. To make the game less "haxxy", can you only give us teams worth more than 10 points and less than 30 points?
Also 50% Zygarde was broken enough to get suspect tested on Smogon Forums and will probably be officially banned. Please ban it in this tournament, where it's even more broken.

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Okay, 20 points it is.
Good luck!
Your letters are F B D G L X
Your new letters are F O A B L Z
I shudder to imagine what a Z in your hands will do.
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight Jofly, [MEGA]StellarLucario, and ForretressExplosion.
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Jofly
GMT +1

sorry y'all i've been real busy lately but I'll make sure to battle all of you this last weekend of the tourney

i'll be online evenings my time

edit: pls just dq me

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Can you meet me on Showdown! anytime this week?
Your new letters are P B O J U Y
(also, sorry for being a day late)
Can we battle anytime in the next 1 to 2 weeks?
Just commenting as a reminder that the deadline is a week from today. Extensions can be made if necessary, but please try to fit all your battles in this week.
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight pretty much everyone.
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Electric Z
GMT -6

I vote for duplicate letters not to be banned

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Will you vote to ban Zygarde?
Your letters are V M H S F Y
Can you meet me on Showdown! anytime this week?
Your new letters are U H K X I R
(also sorry for being a day late)
Just commenting as a reminder that the deadline is a week from today. Extensions can be made if necessary, but please try to fit all your battles in this week.
I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight KRLW890, X-Scizor, Stakatracool, Octazooka, Jofly, [MEGA]StellarLucario, and ForretressExplosion.
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Hi there!! This seems interesting. Let's see if this is less of a trainwreck than the last tournament I joined.

1000HP
EST (-5)

I'm ok with duplicates.
I'm neither for nor against Zygarde.

IMPORTANT: I usually only come on here periodically, so please, if I go MIA from the DB, please do not hesitate to contact me through Discord by the tag No-Name Horse#1378.

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Why are you not responding to my comments?
bruh don't you have discord
Can't you schedule tournament battles without Discord?
You're gonna have a difficult time doing that without Discord man
Just tell me when you're able to battle and check here in case I can't meet you at that time. It's not that hard.
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Im in!

My user is Ri Unite
PST-6

No dupes
Ban Zygarde (I like a fair match)

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I extended the tournament for another week; details are in the selected answer. You still have to fight pretty much everyone.
If you want to battle people, then you have to actually schedule battles. You can't just hope they're online.
Can you battle anytime today?
When are you available to battle for the tourney?
When are you available?