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Please outline:

  • Efficient Pokemon, taking into account stats, movepool, and availability
  • Movesets for these Pokemon
  • Alternatives for trade evolutions, version exclusives, and legendaries

Specific battle strategies are also encouraged -- for example, "Lead with x Pokemon to set up, then use x move to OHKO this Pokemon".


There is no "best answer" for this question. There's a myriad of methods you can employ to defeat Cynthia, so upvotes for the most efficient plans are encouraged.

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This is a team I used to constantly beat Cynthia to grind up other Pokemon's levels with the Exp. Share, and with a couple alterations, it seems to work pretty well for the Champion battle too! I'll provide their movesets, as well as the basic strategy employed to beat Cynthia. Additionally, half the slots for the team are missing, which can be filled out by your starter, or any other strong Pokemon you have to deal with the E4, and act as basic support if either of these Pokemon faint. I suggest the levels for these Pokemon should be somewhere in the 60s.
Their movesets look something along the lines of this:

Abomasnow  sprite from Diamond & Pearl
Abomasnow - Abomasnow can be caught at Mt. Coronet, as well as Route 216, 217, and Acuity Lakefront as a Snover
@ Never-Melt Ice / Icicle Plate / Anything you'd like
Ability: Snow Warning
- Blizzard - Learnt at level 49, always accurate in Hail
- Wood Hammer - Learnt at level 43
- Ice Shard - Learnt at level 15, Abomasnow likely won't have this when caught, so take a trip to the Move Relearner to re-learn the move
- Earthquake - TM26, located in Wayward Cave, requires Strength, Cut, as well as the Bicycle

Azumarill  sprite from Diamond & Pearl
Azumarill - Marill can be found in the Great Marsh, catch a couple so you can get one with a good nature and Huge Power
@ Mystic Water / Anything you'd like
Ability: Huge Power
- Play Rough - Learnt at level 25
- Waterfall - TM99, located in Sunyshore City, or you could teach it Aqua Tail, which is learnt at level 21
- Brick Break - TM31, located at Oreburgh Gate, requiring Rock Smash and Surf
- Bounce - Learnt at level 15

Staraptor  sprite from Diamond & Pearl
Staraptor - Starly can be found in several of the early game routes
@ Sharp Beak / Anything you'd like
Ability: Intimidate, or Reckless if you have access to HAs
- Brave Bird - Learnt at level 49
- Close Combat - Learnt upon evolution (Staravia evolves at level 34)
- U-turn - TM89, found at the Department Store for $3000, or at Veilstone, requiring Surf
- Steel Wing - TM47, found at Route 209, requiring Cut. You may replace this with Roost or Double-Edge if you'd like

Now, time for the strategy to beat Cynthia:

Spiritomb - Spiritomb can't do much against Azumarill, so just spam Play Rough until its dead.
Roserade - Staraptor's STAB Brave Bird should be enough to deal with Roserade, but you may also use Abomasnow's Blizzard or Azumarill's Bounce, though as Roserade has super effective STAB for the both of them, I wouldn't advise doing so.
Gastrodon - Abomasnow should be able to simply outspeed and OHKO it with Wood Hammer, just be wary of Gastrodon's Sludge Bomb.
Lucario - Either use Staraptor's Close Combat, Azumarill's Brick Break, or Abomasnow's Earthquake, that should be enough to deal with it.
Milotic - Milotic's may be the most troubling if Garchomp won't give you any problems. Abomasnow's Wood Hammer should be enough to 2HKO it, if Abomasnow is at low health due to Wood Hammers recoil and prior damage, I suggest you use Azumarill instead, as it resists all of Milotic's offensive moves, and can 3-5HKO it with Play Rough, as long as it doesn't spam Recover. If Abomasnow DOES have high health, there's no reason to use Azumarill over it.
Garchomp - Be cautious about this guy, as its Poison Jab can deal a large amount of damage towards Abomasnow and Azumarill. Lead with Abomasnow and use Ice Shard to deactivate Garchomp's Yache Berry, then use Blizzard to OHKO it. If Abomasnow faints in this process, switch out to Azumarill to kill it with your STAB Play Rough. You may want to get additional support for Garchomp, as this team may have trouble with it.

And with that, you should be able to beat her with this team! Also, I'm open to any suggestions you may want to give, such as additional members (as long as they're useful and easily accessible) or moveset changes, feel free to give them!

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First send out a Staraptor that knows Fly or Brave Bird. Both should 2HKO spiritomb. Then when she sends out Roserade, stay in and use Brave Bird to OHKO. When she sends out Gastrodon, switch to your Roserade and Giga Drain to OHKO. Next for Lucario send out a Infernape (your own Lucario if you chose another starter) and spam Flamethrower or Close Combat. Then for Milotic, send out Roserade or Luxray and spam Giga Drain or Spark. Finally for Garchomp send out your Mew if you have one; Palkia if you don’t and spam Ice Beam. You should beat her with this strategy.

Here is the recommended team:
- Staraptor
- Mew
- Palkia / Dialga
- Infernape
- Roserade
- Luxray

Source: Own experience

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If you don’t want to use legends then replace mew with gardevoir and Palkia with floatzal or gastrodon.
Would ice shard weavile work, assuming it holds either icicle plate or never melt ice?
No the garchomp has max speed Evs and will outspeed and OHKO due to weaviles terrible defense.
Ice Shard has +1 priority. However, the Garchomp has Yache Berry so it will probably survive and KO Weavile.
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Assuming you are playing with no restrictions, here is an old but gold method

Step 1

Get a Magikarp

Step 2

Evolve it into Gyarados and level it up to a similar level to Cynthia's team, preferable level sixty six

Step 3

Give Gyarados a moveset of ice fang / crunch , earthquake, waterfall and dragon dance

Step Four

Lead with Gyarados against Spiritomb

Step Five

Setup six dragon dances, use full restores as necessary

Step Six

Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Bingo bango bongo bish bash bosh

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Do you think me doing this with curse torterra would work
Doubtful. The problem is Milotic. It is gonna outspeed you and kill you with ice beam. It's not a guaranteed one shot but since Torterra is slow as ****, any prior damage from any of her other mons would put you into ice beam range
And even slower from curse... Ok thanks
You could try using some sort of combination of Rock Polish and Work Up.