What is a good moveset for Serperior?

Question

I was thinking leaf blade as one of them, and swords dance as another.

Dex: http://pokemondb.net/pokedex/serperior

Comments

No need for me to answer. This guy doesn't have anything else. Actually quite a shallow movepool. I am actually starting to think Borderline is his zone. But likely tier: Overused.

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Hey everyone think first serperior with perseverity ISN'T OUT YET for the dream world!!!

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That doesn't matter. We can still use those abilities on Pokemon Online.

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How do you do it?

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Can't believe he is NU xD

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WIth Contrary, he should be OU.

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Will anyone help me with this? How do you vote on this site. Yeah I'm kinda new.

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Come to the Chat Room.

Answer 1

I Thought This Might Be Good. I Will Give Sets WITHOUT CONTRARY! And Then Trachy could Do The One with it.

Special Sweeper:

Calm Mind: To Get That Sp. Attack Up.
Energy Ball/Giga Drain: STAB
Wring Out: For Weakneing
Glare/Toxic: Glare Will Help with Setting Calm Mind Up. And Toxic will make the opponet switch away, for a free calm mind.
Nature: Modest: Need Sp. Attack
EVS: 252 Sp. Attack, 252 Defense, 4 HP: As For Sp. Attack, You Get it. Defense because Calm Mind Raises Sp. Defense, so Some Defense might be good.

Physical:

Swords Dance: Of Course!
Leaf Blade: STAB
Return: Good Neutral Coverage
Iron Tail/Aerial Ace/Glare/Toxic: For a little coverage, or to set up the dance Glare. Or Toxic becuz.
Nature: Adamant
Item: Razor Claw: Leaf Blades the Main Move, and the more Crit Hits it gets, the better.
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Hp

Physical Wall:
Coil: To Raise Attack, Defesne, and Acc.
Leaf Blade: STAB
Iron Tail/Return: Coverage, or Neutrel power
Toxic/Glare: For Setting Up.
Item: Shell Bell
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Defense, 4 HP

Wow, Long answer.

Comments

Yeah my Serperior is a Physical User so it Knows Outrage and Leaf Blade instead of Giga Drain and Dragon Pulse

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im building the special sweeper Serperior but im gonna cut the defense Evs in half and add in some Speed

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@irwin Pink
even though this is really really really old
those are evs not the actual stat

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Add aqua tail instead of return aqua tail provides fire coverage and also takes out rock and ground types

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I would replace Return and Aerial Ace with Outrage and Aqua Tail. ONLY if you are in BW2. If you're in BW1 then even Iron Tail is hard to get...

Answer 2

Snowball Sweeping Serperor

Ability: Contrary
suggested item:Leftovers, big root

• Leaf Storm
• Giga Drain
• Hidden power [rock]/[fire]
• Mean Look

The idea with this set is to lock your opponent in with mean look, then build up leaf storm damage. You should only trap pokemon you know it can survive against. You launch a few leaf storms at them, then max out your special attack. Giga Drain is there to restore your health soon after. Since your opponent's next pokemon will be one that is super effective against it, rock is probably the more common choice, because even a steel type would have trouble coming in on this guy at full power.

Comments

thx this really helps but maybe u should put toxic in with mean look so then we can choose

Answer 3

Ahem, three other Serperior sets are Dual Screens, Mixed Serperior, and SubSeed.

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DUAL-SCREENER:
(@ LIGHT CLAY)

Reflect
Light Screen
Giga Drain
Return / Iron Tail

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SUBSEED:
(@ BIG ROOT)

Substitute
Leech Seed
Mean Look
Return

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MIXED SWEEPER
(@ LIFE ORB)

Growth
Giga Drain
Wring Out / Iron Tail
Aerial Ace / Dragon Tail

Answer 4

This is my serperior

Leaf Blade (STAB)
Dragon Tail (Type cover)
Aerial Ace (Bug counter)
Coil (Boost stats)

Mucsle Band

Comments

Who voted this down and why

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No reason to vote this down. I find no reason to vote this up, seeing as it isn't the best moveset for Serperior imo, although it would be useful for ingame. But there is nothing decidingly wrong with it to make it deserve a down vote. So I'll just cancel that out.

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Really, even after what I said this was continued to be voted down?

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Thats all i use it for is ingame. I have a complete other serperior with contrary and a pretty good moveset for competitive

Answer 5

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Item: Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 S.Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Hp

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Leaf-storm

Dragon-pulse

Hidden-power (Fire)

Synthesis

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Black and White 2 gave him some important new Move-tutor moves. Leaf-storm is a given as it doubles his S.Attack in one turn and has super high power. Dragon-pulse YES!!!! Finally! Now his movepool is not so easily resisted, in fact only Heatran resists it now! Great Neutral coverage. Hidden-power (Fire) is great paired with Dragon-pulse and has great coverage. Synthesis gives him reliable healing, this is very useful as he is a bulky sweeper. This set is also good for Sun teams as it powers up Hidden-power (Fire) and Synthesis.
[1]: http://sprites.pokecheck.org/i/497.gif
[2]: http://sprites.pokecheck.org/s/497.gif

Comments

I suggest HP Ground.

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I disagree, with HP Ground less Pokemon take super-effective damage from me, and the uncommon Shedinja and the VERY common Skarmory stall me. Also Ferrothorn only takes neutral damage from me instead of super-effective.

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I hate the fact that he's walled by Heatran D=

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True, but a few boosts from Leaf Storm!  Serperior will be at its max at 400% SP. Attack, so that's STILL a ton of damage regardless of Heatran's resistances.

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Above: That is even higher than White Kyurem...

Answer 6

Okay, lets get the perversity set out the way, then do the real unexpected set. (everyone is gonna do the Contrary set, leading to a quick counter to it.)

Leaf Storm-yeah yeah...

Hidden power[Rock]-covers 4 weaknesses with one move

Toxic-does more steady damage.

Mean look-Traps the foe, preventing super effective switch ins.
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Physical sweepers:

Leaf blade-grass stab, critical hits...

Swords dance-powers up attacking moves.

Iron tail-all power. Covers ice weakness.

Reflect/Light screen-more defensive power

Aerial ace-Covers Bug weakness
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Special:

Leaf storm/energy ball-although he doesn't have perversity with this set, it's still damaging. Or just stick with energy ball.

calm mind-He powers up to be a threat with this.

hidden power [Rock]-covers most weaknesses with this.

reflect/Light screen-Gives added defense.

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My personal favorite set (with Contrary)

Leaf storm-comes off with boosted power

hidden power [Rock]

Reflect-leads to the next move...

Mirror coat-Since your opponent will be more inclined to use special attacks due to reflect, this would work perfectly. It's pretty unexpected too.

Comments

i like the physical moveset. maybe dragon tail instead of iron tail? no coverage, and not as powerful, but causes switch

Answer 7

Serperior (F) @ Miracle Seed
Trait: Contrary
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Giga Drain
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Leaf Storm
- Taunt

Comments

i thought it was fast enough without a speedy nature, whats going on with this?

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Well, it is fast without it, but it will be outsped more in that case. And it doesn't need special attack, as it has boosts from Leaf Storm. Nature for other stats would just be a waste.

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could you please name something that could outspeed  it and possibly ohko it?

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If Serperior did not have a Speed boosting nature, it could be outsped by any Pokemon with base 100 Speed or higher with a Speed boosting nature, and it can be hit first by slow Scarfed Pokemon. There are too many too name who could outspeed Serperior if it did not have a speed boosting nature.

Answer 8

Use this after hazards are out

Serperior (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Coil
- Dragon Tail
- Synthesis
- Taunt / Leaf Blade

You can coil up for better bulk and harder hitting. Along with an accuracy boost! ( Yes! Now Dragon Tail won't miss! ). Synthesis is good reliable healing for if you get too beat down. Taunt can stop other phazers and taunters in their tracks. While Leaf Blade is for if you get a lot of Coils and think you can just straight up tank over your opponents.

Comments

Very tanky set, I like it. There are many sets with contrary and I don't like it.

Answer 9

Serperior (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Contrary
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Dragon Pulse
- Nature Power (Tri Attack)
- HP Fire

It's finally legal!!

Answer 10

This is the first time I am answering a moveset question.
I am getting this pokemon as my starter.

Leaf Blade
[Snake Coil]
strength/return
iron tail/aerial ace

Comments

Well it is a pretty good start on my opinion.

Answer 11

With perversity you can reverse changes to your stats so I would recommend

[email protected] Specs Perversity
Leaf Storm (raises Sp. Att = Nasty Plot)
HP [Ice]
Taunt
Toxic

Leaf Storm is your move of choice here, HP [Ice] is to deal with any Dragon types (4X Resistance) thye other to moves are just filler, you need scarf specs cause its sp. Att isn't that great at first.

Comments

No it doesn't leaf storm will sharply boost S.attack

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It will sharply LOWER your SP.attack.

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Perversity reverses the stat changes for the Pokemon. Leaf Storm's power will raise by 100% everytime it is used, leading to a cap of 400% the original damage (Check that for number changes; may be wrong). This measure can OHKO Shuckle, and 2HKO Metagross, which is incredibly powerful. It makes Jarlorda an incredible wallbreaker.

Answer 12

Hmm.....

Item: Miracle Seed if using Giga Drain, due to there being two Grass type attacks. Otherwise, Leftovers is probably best.

Ev's 252 sp atk 252 speed 4 Speed

Nature: Timid

Ability: Contrary

• Leaf Storm
• Giga Drain / Wring Out
• Hp - Fire
• Taunt

Role: Lead

Comments

Hey J98, do you mind if I edit this to include my item of choice here? This is the exact same as my Serperior lead (with Giga Drain, not Wring Out.)

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Haha I guess great minds think alike :p

But yeah, Its cool.

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How can you have 252speed and 4speed evs?

Answer 13

Strategy type: Defensive
Nature: Modest
Item: Big Root - to increase hp received from giga drain and leech seed
Moveset:
Giga Drain - to heal and damage

Toxic - to drain hp

Leech Seed - to heal and drain

Protect - Evade damage while healing through Leech seed or draining hp

Strategy Comment:
Great for most pokemon, including weakness but very ineffective against Grass/Poison Types

Comments

i like this one but what evs for this set?

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does big root actually increase the amount gained from leech seed?

Answer 14

Sun Serperior
.Growth- doubles atk and spatk due to sun
.solar beem- stab with no delay
.Hidden power rock- covers fly and fire weekness
Toxic or dragon tail- toxic to stall dragon tail to deal with dragons and to phaze
100hp 152spatk 252speed modest or timid
@leftovers with ability overgrow

Comments

Its not a sun Serperior if it doesn't have Sunny day.

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But if it's on a team that uses a Pokemon with Drought, it's already set up.

Answer 15

[email protected] lens
Overgrow
Adamant
Likes to fight.
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd

-Coil
-Leaf Blade
-Aqua Tail
-Iron Tail/Aerial Ace

This is my actual Serperior in White 2, He hasn't let me down yet, start off with a coil or two then start delivering beatings. Enjoy! :)

Answer 16

There are multiple possible sets.
Get ready for a long answer...

Physical:
Ability: Overgrow
Item: Your choice, but Life Orb or Leftovers work
IVs: 31 atk, 0 sp. atk, 15 sp. def, 15 def, 15 HP, 31 spe
Moves:
Swords Dance
Leaf Blade
Outrage
Iron Tail

Special:
Ability: Overgrow
Item: Life Orb/Leftovers
IVs: 0 atk, 31 sp. atk, 15 sp. def, 15 def, 15 HP, 31 spe
Moves:
Calm Mind
Leaf Tornado/Giga Drain
Wring Out
Dragon Pulse

Leaf stormer:
Ability: Contrary
Item: Leftovers
IVs: 31 sp. atk, 30 atk, 30 sp. def, 31 def, 30 spe, 30/31 HP
Moves:
Leaf Storm
Hidden Power (Rock)/(Ground if HP IV is 31)
Dragon Pulse/Twister/(Grass Pledge if you are in doubles with Water/Fire Pledge on other Pokemon)
Synthesis/Toxic/Leech Seed/Leaf Tornado

Trapping set:
Ability: Either
Item: Leftovers
IVs: 31 atk, 0/31 sp. atk, 31 def, 31 sp. def, 31 HP, 20 spe
Moves:
Wrap
Toxic
Leech Seed
Synthesis/Giga Drain

Screen setter:
Ability: Either
Item: Leftovers
IV: 0/31 atk, 0/31 sp. atk, 31 def, 31 sp. def, 25 spe, 31 HP
Moves:
Light Screen
Reflect
Toxic
Energy Ball/Leaf Blade/Synthesis

The idea of each set:
Physical: Good for special walls, like Chansey or Blissey.
Special: Good for physical walls.
Leaf stormer: Rake advantage of Contrary.
Trapping set: Trap opponent with Wrap, then Leech Seed and Toxic to whittle down health. Synthesis for recovery. Synthesis over Giga Drain in case of Liquid Oozers, but it's your choice.
Screen setter: Set up Light Screen and Reflect while also inflicting poison.

My personal set
Ability: Contrary
Item: Leftovers
IVs: 30 atk, 31 sp. atk, 30 def, 30 sp. def, 30 spe, 31 HP
Moves:
Leaf Storm
Hidden Power (Rock)
Grass pledge
Twister

Phew... we're at the end. Of course, some of the sets are changeable, by swapping moves such as Leaf Tornado for Energy Ball. Hope this helped.

Note: I did make these sets, and searched up IVs to find out about hidden power. If you use the move, you can find out what hidden power it is here: https//www.smogon.com
This website also gives moves and abilities for Pokémon, as well as tiers.

Answer 17

Here is my faverite

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Item: leftovers

Evs: 252 S.attack, 252 speed, 6 hp

Nature: Timid

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Leaf storm: STAB that boosts

Hidden power(rock): Strong against all but one weakness

Wring out/Giga-drain: POWER, or STAB to keep his hp high

Glare: 90 acc paralyze to cripple other sweepers

Comments

Wring out is based on the opponent's health, not your own so the leftovers won't help there. Plus, why use that when you could use the STAB move that boosts up special attack?

Answer 18

item: scope lens

moves:

toxic---defensive pokemon is great with this

dragon tail---bring out the next foe and poison them...rinse&repeat

leech seed---more damage to poisoned foe and heals yourself

leaf blade---will do critical hit with scope lens

Comments

Not sure if L-Seed + Dragon Tail are good combo...

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evs????

Answer 19

Item: big root

protect-obviosly

leech seed-goes with protect and goes with big root

toxic-come on. its only logical

giga drain-for double healing with big root

good luck:)

Answer 20

Trick room serperior
252defense, 252 sp. defense, 6hp
Ability: Contrary
Item: Iron Ball
Nature: Sassy
Leaf storm
Mean look
Giga Drain
Protect