How come that girafarig outspeed my floatzel?

Question

today I was battling a random Pokemon breeder on the battle tower I defeated the first two of his Pokemons and his last Pokemon is girafarig, I sent out floatzel and something strange happens it can outspeed my floatzel even being so fast how that's possible?

floatzel has 115 base speed right? and girafarig has 85 base speed was his girafarig holding an item that boosts speed or something because that's not normal...

Comments

What's your Floatzel's level and speed stat? What's the Girafarig's level? What move did Floatzel use when it got outsped? Did Girafarig outspeed Floatzel on Girafarig's first turn in battle? Are you sure Floatzel's speed wasn't lowered earlier?

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all battle tower pokemon are all level 50 no priority moves or speed drops and girafarig didn't use or has any priority move
BTW i should go to the move releaner and relearn aqua jet and solve those situations :P

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but just because a Pokemon's BASE speed is lower than another Pokemon's doesn't mean that it's speed stat will always be lower.

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What's your Floatzel's speed stat? Did Girafarig outspeed Floatzel on Girafarig's first turn in battle?

Answer 1

The information you provided is inadequate to determine which Pokemon shall move first. The speed stat is not determined by the base stat alone, but a variety of other factors too.

The net speed stat is determined by the formula:

(Base stat)level/50) + (IVs)(level)/100 + (EVs)(level)/400

The Girafarig likely had EVs and IVs which allowed it to outspeed your Floatzel. Or it may be using a Choice Scarf, or may have used a speed-boosting move such as Agility.

You should learn about EVs and IVs if you don't know about them already

Answer 2

Choice Scarf most likely. If you see some weird animation and he goes first then it might be Quick Claw. However after so many wins it just becomes pure hacks. That's the only reason I can think off. Most of the time the Battle Tower is full of stuff that should be impossible such as slower Pokemon going first without using priority moves or choice scarf and I'm saying this based on experience.

Comments

Do you have any evidence that the opponent's Pokémon break the rules in battle tower? There are several possible reasons for floatzel to be slower, I highly doubt there's any stay alterations going on

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I said my answer based on my own personal experience with the battle tower. I was around 70 wins when it happened. The AI was using Stantler as his first pokemon and mine was Garchomp. Somehow his Stantler was faster than my Garchomp and it had the maximum speed possible for it.  Somehow the AI got the first move during the turn and used confuse ray. I thought it was because of Choice Scarf but that wasn't the case as he used a different move in the next turn. It wasn't even a quick claw as it did not show any animation before he used that move. When I checked the list of items that increase speed, each had draw backs such as Scarf or the Salac Berry so it became clear that it was just pure hacks

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What level was your Garchomp? Are you sure the Stantler was the same level?

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It was on the battle tower so both were level 50. However outside of the tower it was already level 100

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Are you sure its speed was exactly 169 when its level was 50?

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Close. I think it was around 167.

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What a nonsense answer, impossible things don't happen in Pokemon.

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That's not true. Some "impossible" things can happen. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Game_move_errors

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That's different. The Pokemon with the highest speed stat will always move first, these are the core mechanics of the game.  All Pokemon have their original base stat total in all battles. Idk if he used roar or something, but I'm sure that he's either lying or missing out on some information.