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If you have a good competitive moveset for Greninja (or Ash-Greninja), post an answer below and upvote the best ones. Movesets for any of its pre-evolutions can also be shared on this thread.

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"But wynaut use Protean or Battle Bond?" Because people have the right to come up with fun and surprising new gimmick sets.

National Dex / Gen 7 OU


Greninja @ Waterium Z
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Substitute
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Spikes / Ice Beam

Hydro Pump is strong STAB that can be boosted by Torrent and can also be powered up into Hydro Vortex for a turn. Substitute to take advantage of the switches it forces to deal free damage to the enemy the next turn. Substitute also lowers Greninja's HP stat by 25%, which means that Torrent activates after 3 subs (since Greninja's HP is an odd number). Hidden Power [Fire] covers Ferrothorn and Kartana. Spikes weakens the opposition, Ice Beam does more to most Grass types and covers Dragon types.

I know this set is outclassed by Protean and Battle Bond by a mile, but it was fun to make. It also has the surprise factor to it.

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Greninja @ Life Orb / Focus Sash / Expert Belt
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse / Extrasensory
- Ice Beam
- U-turn

Greninja-Ash (M) @Choice Specs
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Water Shuriken
- Dark Pulse
- Spikes

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Super versatile, Greninja with Protean is known for being a powerful threat

Gen VII
Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Scald
- Dark Pulse / Spikes / Shadow Sneak
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot

All of Greninja's moves are STAB, so the plan is to use the right move on the right situation

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I don't get how nobody is taking advantage of this
Ash Greninja Physical Sweeper
145 Attack - That's the same as Mega Sceptile's SpA (and that thing sweeps) but with the added bonus of an item.

Greninja @ Blunder Policy / Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Ability: Battle Bond (Obviously)
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- U-turn
- Night Slash / Ice Punch / Acrobatics
- Gunk Shot

Waterfall - STAB (Sadlly it does'nt learn liquidation)
U-turn - Good Coverage
Night Slash / Ice Punch / Acrobatics - STAB or coverage, Use Acrobatics if Blunder Policy is used up
Gunk Shot - For those pesky Fairy Types (Main reason for Blunder Policy)

Sweep Time B)

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Why Choice Specs with all physical moves...
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Greninja @ Waterium Z or Focus Sash
Ability: Protean or Torrent
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature / Bold Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Dark Pulse or Rock Slide
- Grass Knot

My all time special attacker in my X playthrough

Hazard Greninja
Greninja @ Focus Sash
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Taunt
- Toxic Spikes
- Spikes
- Ice Beam

Thank you

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why did you put the ash greninja sprite when there is no battle bond ability?
also "My All time special attacker in my X playthrough" does this mean this is an ingame moveset?
and im pretty sure this is ingame moveset cause you put torrent there.
Please put different movesets in different answers and try to make it Showdown! importable syntax.
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Greninja
Greninja is one of the greatest Pokemon with incredible Speed and Special Attack

Greninja
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Scald
- Dark Pulse
- Extrasensory
- U-turn

Although the Ash-Greninja is amazing and put the Pokemon to a brand new level, I believe Protean in some cases might gain an upper hand in-game. With protean, Greninja can cover its 5 weaknesses by changing its type every time it moves. It is also a nice cover from its low defensive stats. On the other hand, its incredible speed and special attack strike its opponent OHKOs. So consider putting special moves like scald, dark pulse, etc. Also using various move types can be a big support for the Protean ability.

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This is for competitive, not in-game
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Greninja @ Choice Specs / Life Orb
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Water Shuriken
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam / Extrasensory / Gunk Shot / U-Turn / Spikes / Toxic Spikes
- Hydro Pump

- Water Shuriken for priority STAB, can be used in the rain where it gets a monsterous power boost, and helps you deal with faster opponents and priority users.
- Dark Pulse for Dark Type STAB. Destroys annoying Psychics and Ghosts like Aegislash, Mega-Gengar, and Mega-Mewtwo.
- Hydro Pump is meant to be taken advantage of in rain to bust crazy amounts of damage that is able to OHKO almost anything that doesn't resist it, not to mention if they are weak to it.
- The 3rd move slot is completely customizable to provide ample versatility to whatever coverage, pivoting, or hazards you require.
- Ice Beam provides the much needed coverage over your weakness to grass types and deals with dragon and flying types really well.
- Extrasensory can be substituted for ample coverage against fighting and poison types.
- Gunk Shot should be used instead if you struggle with Fairies and it covers grass types well too.
- U-Turn is also a good consideration for your 3rd move slot to pivot out of threats you don't have coverage for and generate momentum for your team.
- Spikes and Toxic Spikes are also amazingly good options to consider if you don't have a hazard setter on your team. Hazard support complements Greninja's assault and helps him secure and pickup certain KOs on mon's he was unable to before.

This set was meticulously developed to maximize Ash-Greninja's firepower and take advantage of priority, extensive coverage, high power STAB, and rain to decimate your opponents. Again, I must emphasize the HUGE sweeping opportunity Greninja gains from hazard support and rain. If you set it all up you can pretty much mindlessly spam your Water Shuriken and Hydro Pump till you win or they forfeit.

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Gunk Shot is better than Aerial Ace or Ice Punch as it covers Fairy-types as well as Grass-types, so is U-turn for pivoting and momentum.
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Repost Greninja moveset and I see a lot of people not using water shuriken in their movesets

Greninja @ Choice Specs / Leftovers / Choice Scarf
Ability: Protean
EVs: 6 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Mild / Hasty Nature
- Water Shuriken
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
- U-turn

Water Shuriken: priority STAB
Dark Pulse: STAB and this is special attack greninja so no night slash
Ice Beam: as I said this is special attack greninja so no ice punch and coverage
U-turn: take that 6 attack EVs to good use

I'm still gonna do a physical Greninja for yalls

Greninja @ Leftovers / Choice Band
Ability: Protean
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Ice Punch
- Shadow Sneak
- Night Slash
- Waterfall

Ice Punch: this is a physical set, so no Ice Beam
Shadow Sneak: replacement for Water Shuriken, not as strong but does the trick
Night Slash: ya know the drill, right?
Waterfall: another physical move to replace water shuriken

this one doesn't have Water Shuriken, so I recommend the special attacker set for Greninja

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For the future reference, please post movesets in Showdown-importable syntax as it makes movesets easier to read and makes sure you don't leave out any details. Also, if you have more than one moveset to post, please post them as separate answers so they can be voted on separately.
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(NFE) Rain Frogadier

Frogadier (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Hydro Pump
- HP Dark / Hidden Power [Fire] / Grass Knot
- Ice Beam
- U-Turn / Toxic Spikes / Gunk Shot

This set is meant to be used offensively in rain where its water type STAB gets a boost. STAB multiplier + Choice Specs multiplier + Rain multiplier = 3.375x multiplier boost, which brings Hydro Pump's power to a total of 371.25, which is just OP. The 4th move slot is completely customizable to the Pivoting, Hazard Support, or Coverage you want for your team.
HP Dark covers Psychic and Ghost types, but HP Fire and Grass knot can be used instead for more coverage if you so desire.

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Greninja @ Choice Specs
Ability: Protean
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Dark Pulse
- Ice Beam
- aerial ace

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Can you provide a reasoning for your choices?
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I think this will do it.

Greninja @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent / Protean
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Bashful Nature
- Water Shuriken
- Dark Pulse
- Aerial Ace
- Taunt

So basically Water Shuriken is a good and strong move that can hit multiple times. Water Shuriken can double or triple the damage from the first shuriken. Dark Pulse is great STAB and can flinch Pokemon. Aerial Ace covers at least 3 out of 5 of its weaknesses due to its typing. Taunt can stop Pokemon like Hariyama from using Belly Drum.

Hope this moveset helps!

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Is this intended to be a ingame/casual moveset? If so, you aren't allowed to post ingame sets on these threads. If this is intended for competitive play... yeesh.

Nobody uses Hariyama in tiers where Greninja is used. Why Focus Sash as the item?  What do you mean by Protean if you're lucky (If this is supposed to be a competitive set)? Taunt doesn't work well on this set. Aerial Ace doesn't do much since it only has 60 BP, even with all the investments in Attack. How do you expect to do much with Dark Pulse and Water Shuriken with no SpA investment and a -Special Attack nature?

Sorry... but it has to be done... '-' vvv